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Penny pinching and SPC

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Let's end all those taxpayer subsidies to corporations so it's finally everyone for themselves - the true Liberal Way.

We're almost rid of those vehicle manufacturers at last.

Why not move onto the Private Health funds?
Their product is just too expensive for the average consumer so we have to be threatened and intimidated into joining.

Then we can move on to those poor struggling mining companies who pick up $4.5billion from the taxpayer (which they can then contribute to even more political lobbying for benefits and cuts).

Diesel fuel subsidies to primary producers is fair enough - but miners?

So much to do and so little time.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 31 January 2014 2:43:13 PM
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*and pocket AFTER TAX about $10 K per month. compete with that and stay competitive? draw workers away from that kind of money *

How much longer do you think this gravy train is going to run?
It all depends on China and that economy is on the edge now.
When it fails Australia is going to be left with a huge force of miners, a lot of holes in the ground and the biggest unemployment ever.
Those on $10K per month now will have huge mortgages and be unable to service them.
They will not be able to sell their mega mansions.
They will take lower paid jobs rather than lose everything.

Sorry, it simply IS going to happen.

In the case of SPC, if CCA pull the plug they will not be carting off the buildings and infrastructure and the machinery is not worth them taking so that's when the government should step in buy the remains at what should be fire sale prices and invest in up to date machinery.
The work force could then be given the opportunity to continue operating under THEIR OWN management.
It will be up to them to set wages that will realize a profit because they will be working for themselves.
The final bit of the equation is for a tariff on imported fruit and vegetables to put on to level the playing field properly.
Posted by Robert LePage, Friday, 31 January 2014 2:52:04 PM
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You make it all sound so easy Jodelle. It's public money we are talking about and while it is sad that an Australian icon may disappear, it should not be propped up by the tax payer. However I see that you suggest Coca Cola should continue to support it although I understand it has been doing this for some time. I am not sure how Coca Cola can "make up" $25,000,000 in two months. If that was the case they could easily double their annual overall profit instead of the present $250,000,000. Your logic doesn't add up. All companies should make a profit and of course a quarter of a billion dollars is a lot of money, but it has to relate to the capital investment. If it doesn't the share holders will not be happy, the tax man will lose out plus all those super funds in which you may have an indirect interest.

People do not buy SPC products as they're too expensive. Our production costs are too high. You can't blame the supermarkets for importing competitive products when customers demand cheap prices. We have had until now a high dollar, the result of a floating exchange rate and our mining activities have exacerbated that. Supermarket prices will rise if controls are levelled and then everyone bitches because inflation rises. We live in a competitive world now with free trade. If we start to impose controls we will affect our exports and God knows, we need them to enjoy a good standard of living here

I agree that we have a great deal of debt and we will have to borrow even more money overseas when inflation rises, and interest rates rise. so look forward to social unrest in the future and be careful what you wish for.

Finally many executives have high salaries that may be too high, but I think you are drawing a "long bow" to suggest profiteering or fraud and as I said originally, we are all living beyond our means and I think we shall have to make sacrifices.
Posted by snake, Friday, 31 January 2014 3:06:23 PM
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If CC Amatil pulls the plug then the government should buy it for $1
and try and organise a co-op with the local council, growers and any
local business, or person that wants to buy a share.

Local business is where everything is going in the longer term so it
would be an interesting project and would give the government guidance
in just what will be needed for all those companies that will go
broke over the next 10 to 20 years.

However this will need politicians to understand or accept that big
changes are afoot, but at present they are rusted on to the concept of growth forever.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 31 January 2014 3:30:41 PM
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Snake. Im always open to correction and constructive criticism, so thank you. Since finding this site i have expanded my knowledge (from zip basically) on politics and subjects I never knew of let alone understood. Some of my suggestions or questions are very 'layman' and are probably considered ignorant, as most are out of sheer curiosity.
Cheers
Posted by jodelie, Friday, 31 January 2014 3:37:13 PM
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Thank you Jodelle for your comments. I always try and be courteous on this site, but sometimes I get sucked in when someone pushes my button ! Like everyone, I have an opinion, which I like to express sometimes and I always try to take a balanced view, but not always the expert. Finance and what is being done in the world by central bankers has me fascinated though.
Posted by snake, Friday, 31 January 2014 4:13:09 PM
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