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If you were a people smuggler, what would you do now?

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The confrontation between Australia and the people smugglers is heating up by the day.

The Australian Navy reportedly breached Indonesian territory by towing illegal boats back to Indonesian waters.

The Left in Australia is outraged. The media outlets on the Left literally play the role of a mouthpiece for the people smugglers, only pretending to be concerned for the safety of illegal immigrants, and the proper conduct of our government.

If you were a people smuggler, watching your business being disrupted, but your supporters growing stronger and stronger in Australia, what would be your next step to defeat Australian government and force it to stop what it is doing?
Posted by Peng, Friday, 17 January 2014 10:13:39 AM
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Peng, I have never met any people smuggler supporters in Australia, have you?

I have met many people opposed to overseas detention centers, and opposed to sending refugees back to Indonesia, but never anyone who supports people smugglers.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 19 January 2014 4:00:10 PM
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Suse you can say it backwards, forwards or sideways, but if you are pro letting these gate crashing boast people in, you are a people smuggler supporter.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 19 January 2014 5:26:36 PM
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Hey there are illegal migrant travel agents organising it all from here !
A couple got busted in Dandenong in Melbourne about a year ago.
You go into the tavel agency, tell them the name of your relative or
friend, pay the money and they book them in and tell you where they
have to report. In the meantime the travel agent informs the smuggler
that the fee has been paid and he holds the fee until the boat is boarded.
They are well organised and a travel agency makes a good cover.
They got sprung because of money laundering tracking.
They then probably changed to that Islamic money transaction system
that is totally off the record and is by word of mouth.
Can't remember its name. It is a real tax dodge and money does not
actually move.

We are dealing with criminals you know.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:23:44 PM
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Bazz they are "Hawala dealers" {hawaldars}
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 19 January 2014 11:26:22 PM
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We are dealing with criminals you know.
Bazz,
You mean like those who oppose to overseas detention centers, and opposed to sending refugees back to Indonesia, ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 20 January 2014 6:30:48 AM
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<<If you were a people smuggler, what would you do now?>>

With a view to future growth I'd run an ad. like this:

In sincere appreciation for all the assistance given in helping us to grow our business, People Smugglers International NL (A no-liability company registered in Australia, Singapore, Dubai, Malaysia, Pakistan and Iran) offers *FREE* RETURN FLIGHTS TO KUALA LUMPUR OR JAKARTA to all our supporters and friends.

This package includes six days seven nights free accommodation and meals at Abdullah's the retired smugglers chain of hotels in either city (all food halal).Plus duty free shopping at captains Emad's string of jewelry stores.

To avail of this offer simply present your Green Party membership card at People Smugglers International metropolitan offices throughout Australian (usually located right next door to the Centrelink)

[My first thought was to run it in all large media providers, but on second thoughts this might prove expensive -- it might be more cost effective to narrowly target my market. Most friends and supporters of People Smugglers International would religiously watch the ABC or SBS --so we need only run the ad there (and those stations would probably run it free as a community service/announcement)]
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 20 January 2014 8:25:33 AM
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If I were a people smuggler I would be looking for a new enterprize.

If anyone doubts the determination of the present government to deter the illegals from wanting to get to Aus, they underestimate Morrison and Abbott.

We can look forward to the number of boats arriving here dwindling to a mere trickle. The folly started by Labor will be stopped.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 20 January 2014 9:24:50 AM
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The implication is that there are people smugglers flaming supposedley Leftist campaigns to assist asylum seekers as though the Australian people cannot come to their own conclusions about refugees. There are also people on the Right and people who have left the Liberal Party because of their treatment of asylum seekers. This is not about ideology.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 20 January 2014 9:33:04 AM
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If I were a smuggler I would move to the next obvious business development
and form an alliance with other smugglers and buy one of thousands of
ships around 5000 to 10000 tons, load it up with 1000 to 2000 illegals
and sail it up Sydney Harbour and dock at Circular Quay.

Isn't that a logical business development ?

Individual, I would be looking hard to see if I could find something
with which to charge the bleeding hearts.
Something like enticement to commit a crime.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 20 January 2014 12:57:04 PM
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One guy involved and imprisoned for the people smuggling trade told me how delighted the trade wqw when Rudd was first elected. I suspect the best thing to do if still involved is to get people to vote Labour/Green to open up the welcome mat again. Sad but true. They are content for people to be drowned as long as they can pretend to be the compassionate ones.
Posted by runner, Monday, 20 January 2014 1:56:10 PM
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Saw the thread after my brief holiday.
Hard one.
See from my point of view not putting myself in the boat, I think smugglers are filth.
Every boat arriving has seen real danger of death on the sea, for his customers/victims.
And we like it or not are victims too, this issue costs us all wasted tax payer funds.
And the bruising to our social fabric that see,s minority groups talking on phones advising how to get around our laws even months befor they set sail.

IF I was? well continue to bribe police and army politicians and any one to, continue making a fortune at every one else expense.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 8:36:08 AM
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If I were a smuggler, the things I would do to try and force Abbott to stop turning the boats around would be:

1) Make up stories about Australians abusing, torturing and firing on Asylum seekers.

2) Get as much information to the Indonesian media or Labor/greens to embarrass Indonesia as much as possible.

3) Arrange for some one to be killed whilst being towed back.

Well it looks like 2 of 3 are already happening
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 1:13:41 PM
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Well firstly I would encourage all my successful relocation's in Australia, my growing support, to voice their displeasure, maybe throw a few fliers around Centrelink and other popular areas they frequent. Picture a sad grubby faced baby being nurtured by a tearful mum. Go for the heart strings.
Due to my Gratitude in Prosperity, I will do all in my power to save my illegal, immoral and increasingly successful little money spinner. The success's speak for themselves and I feel a rewarding sense of Charity and Humility.
My people need to be surrounded by their own kind, to feel safe in this place of strangers so I feel we need to build in numbers to ensure our safety and security. Therefore my business has now become indispensable.
The actions necessary, feeling the sense of Standing in the Way of Corruption, are..... ha dont be silly.
Posted by jodelie, Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:53:16 PM
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While there are dollars to be had people smuggling is not going to stop.
Can the AU navy stay there for ever and more, or will they start a new route. Like we were told before the election.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 23 January 2014 3:52:59 PM
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579

For some one that was crowing about how it was impossible to turn the boats around, and that Abbott wouldn't stop the boats, you must be feeling really dumb now.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 24 January 2014 5:09:24 AM
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