The fundamental attack on your basic human rights and absolute destruction of democratic law by the Newman government in Queensland with the complicity of the Queensland Police Service, judges, and media, serves as a warning to you that your vision of a democratic and free society is an absolute illusion.

The offensive condescension by the complicit media in the continual usage of the term "bikie law" is a slap in the face of anyone with half a brain. At no point in the VLAD legislation are you and I clearly separated from "outlaw gangs" and at no point does it state that you and I are free from being targeted if and any point we decide to stand up and be counted with our hand in the air screaming injustice.

The violation of rights of these Queensland constituents before and during incarceration is tantamount to crimes against humanity.

I have never been so offended, sickened, dismayed, angry, and sad, at the actions of a so called democratic government as I am with this travesty of a government and law.

Shame, to those involved. What an offensive legacy.

Hold on StG, let’s not jump to the end of the spectrum with this. It’s a damn good thing to crack down on criminal bikie activities. For too long they’ve basically has free rein to do all manner of nasty stuff.

Tough action was certainly needed.

Yes, it is a step too far for people associated with a bikie gang meeting in a pub to end up in jail, regardless of whether they were in any way involved with criminal activities. But hey, it is hard to be tough without pushing it a bit too far in some ways.

If only we could implement laws that directly targeted offenders and imposed penalties directly proportional to the severity of their offences, without affecting anyone else. But of course we can’t do that. The law is always going to come down on people very unevenly.

Well, I say: so be it, just as long as the organised crime element is significantly reduced, and at least some of the worst offenders are nabbed and harshly dealt with.

Actually, if we could depend on our judges to apply suitable sentencing for proven criminals, none of these "special" laws would be necessary, nor would have they been enacted.

While we have a judiciary more interested in the wellbeing & rehabilitation of criminals, than in protecting the public, our parliament has no other choice.

Even tonight we had some silly little academic girl repeating the fool statement that heavier sentences would not deter the king hit brigade.

I guess these humanities girls can't do arithmetic. If she could, she would realise, if the offenders are banged up for 20 years, there will be many less repeat offenders. It is by letting them out in just a couple of years, even when they have killed an innocent person, that we get multiple repeat offenders.

I had not really looked at the new law proposed in Queensland before tonight, so I looked it up. Here is the link.
https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/Bills/54PDF/2013/VicLawAssDisB13.pdf

I have to admit that it did concern me a little in that it never really specifies bikie gangs as being the prime targets for such punishment.
It talks about 'clubs or organizations of more than three people'.

So, technically, anyone could be caught up in this strict sentencing law for relatively minor criminal activity, if they are shown to be a member of a club?

Continued....
I meant to add that I will be vacating the position of secretary in my local Country Women's Association today, just in case the treasurer is stealing money...

I don't have an issue with the police getting rid of criminal organisations.

I do have an issue with a bloke being locked up for a month for delivering a pizza, or a bloke being intimidated by six police crews and detained without charge for an hour because of the look of his jacket. I have an issue with the potential for these laws being used against you if the police choose too because you and your group may have an issue with what the government is doing. I have an issue with the fact that these constituents are having their human rights violated - not end result - this is a fact and happening. I have an issue with the government dismissing the democratic law of the land and your basic rights as inconvenient.

Northern Ireland revisited.

suZIES..LINK
http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/Bills/54PDF/2013/VicLawAssDisB13.pdf

YES..any club[lets get the laws bullEt proof]..then go the others
FIRST THE LAWYER..association..then the bankers/MASONS/POLICE CLUBS/UNIONS..political party affiliates..

Anybody..willing to take OATH..to any cREED
BELIEF IDEAL..THE CURRENT POWERS WISH..to Silence*

bloggers weB SITES..THATS A CLUB
a Great cLUB TO GET YOU..TOO../one day..when your clUBS NUMBERS FRighten..THE POWERS THAT BE*/..one..daY..THEY..come..for you/yours*

http://rss.infowars.com/20140113_Mon_Alex.mp3

The fundamental attack on your basic human rights and absolute destruction of democratic law by the Newman government in Queensland with the complicity of the Queensland Police Service, judges, and media, serves as a warning to you that your vision of a democratic and free society is an absolute illusion.
STG,
Don't you realise that all this was brought on by the support for the previous ALP Government to remove just about all rights from the decent law abiding citizen ?
You can't on one hand support the previous discrimination on the other hand complain about attempts to rectify this discrimination.

Right on StG.

I already posted a comment on these laws on another thread.

And how's the amendments making them an even greater threat to our liberties?

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Anyone who has declared their membership to a proscribed club, through words or action, sought to have been a member, or attended one or more meetings or gatherings of people who are members or associates, is in danger of losing their electrical licence or not having it renewed.
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No licence means no job!

Seems the Sieg Heil brigade is back in full swing.
I guess I'll wear my yellow star with pride!

Individual,

"You can't on one hand support the previous discrimination on the other hand complain about attempts to rectify this discrimination."

I'm sorry? I didn't state anything like this. This was your imagination.

As RawMustard just inferred, this VLAD legislation the same legislation that got Jews shuffled into gas chambers. I would have a problem with this law no matter who imposed it.

this VLAD legislation the same legislation that got Jews shuffled into gas chambers
Stg,
yes, you got it in one. The national Sozialisten of Germany did exactly that. Under the Socialists of Australia victims of crime are not allowed to defend themselves and/or what's theirs..
PC of 1930's Germany & PC of 2013 Australia are literally the same. The mentality is exactly the same.

I'm sorry. You're all over the place. I don't understand what you're on about.

Spot on, Individual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOsN-P5abVg
a message to our police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1t9xBe0wPw
THE TRUE DUTY OF A JURY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7nqdV7wV2k

What I fine example of a woman, UOG. My favourite woman on the net. Exactly like my own wife, the absolute gem she is!

Do you support the current gun laws in Australia, StG? I think that's what Individual maybe referring too?

If you allow people to dictate one law for certain groups of people, then you can't expect not to have laws dictated against others.

Interesting how low the participation on this thread. Speaks volumes!

Rawmustard,

You just beat me to mentioning that; it's indeed curious.

RawMustard,
The gun laws need overhauling too yes but it's the thieving, assaults, etc that really are starting to impact on society. The laws against discipline are foremost.
Corruption is almost a new australian standard & incompetence is not an offence despite the fact that it is the single most drain on the public coffers.

Indy. The softening of the judiciary is all planned. The two party farce is a classic case of good cop, bad cop! I'm surprised you don't see it.

The defenseless will always be abused by those with power, it's why they want you defenseless!

The incompetence is just a way for them to spit in your face and remind you who has all the power. OTH, imagine if they had more brains, do you think we'd be better off?

Corruption has become the Modus operandi throughout the state in any nation today. It is our way of life and will get a lot worse before it gets worse!

Good night my good friend, I'm off to do something they'll never take away from us without prizing it from our cold dead bodies! ;~)

Six Police Cruisers Involved In Overkill Interrogation Of Australian Biker
. http://www.ingeniouspress.com/2014/01/16/six-police-cruisers-involved-in-overkill-interrogation-of-australian-biker/

The state of Queensland’s controversial new anti-bikie or ‘anti-association’ laws (which are designed to dismantle or banish motorcycle clubs from the state by making their members’ lives a living hell) demonstrated their potential for overkill recently, when a 45-year-old biker was detained for what he claims was the 21st time.

Completely fed up, he has finally resorted to recording his encounters. On this occasion not one, not two, but SIX police cruisers get involved in interrogating him over his status as a bikie while filling up his vehicle at a service station. http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/01/15/35-things-the-ruling-cabal-does-not-want-you-to-know/ http://www.visibleorigami.com/2014/01/the-culture-of-greed-and-suicide-of-evil.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JpYjxxfHyg http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-nsa-fbi-blackmail-bribes-involving-congressmen-ny-il-israel-police-a-rabbi