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The Forum > General Discussion > We’ve completely lost it with temporary speed limit signs.

We’ve completely lost it with temporary speed limit signs.

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On the Gwydir Highway on the eastern approach to the first river bridge west of Grafton there is a 60 kph zone that has had no workers in sight for over a month.
There was work being done to the verges but no work on the carriageway which was untouched when the verge work was being done and which appears to need no work.

Vehicles appear not to slow down at all for the restriction, an apparent 100 kph being the norm.

So why the signs?

Work is going to start again perhaps as there are two road maintenance vehicles parked about 100 m. off the road, maybe they've been forgotten like the signs.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:23:22 PM
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If that was an isolated example, Is Mise, it would hardly be an issue. But it seems to be the norm!

I see it just everywhere – temporary low speed limits for roadworks when there are absolutely no roadworks, or when the work area is entirely off-road, or low speed limits after hours in roadworks sites that might be appropriate while work is happening but need to be changed upwards when there is no work.

Add to this the absurdly long distance between the actual work area and the return to normal speed that is emplaced at practically every roadworks site. This I have never been able to understand.

Sure, you need a fairly long lead-in slow speed zone. But once you are past the work area, you should be allowed to return to full speed straight away!
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 16 January 2014 9:14:04 PM
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WHY..THE SIGNS?
its regarded as a lawful 'notICE'

THERE ARE SO MANY..sO THAT YOU SWITCH OFF..
and just like a judas goat/fall into their trap..
when they selectively..'en-FORCE..THe 'notice'..according..TO the revenue they need raise.

[usualy done by private coNTRACTERS
LEASING A REVENUE SOURCE AS A SERVICE.]
WITH GOVT GETTING MINIMAL 'fees'/

'com-miSION/sub-missiON/PER-MISSIONs.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 17 January 2014 8:06:34 AM
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I lost a long winded explanation so gave up.
Those signs are to reduce speed over road not in its usual state EG no center lines marked reseal and loose stones a host of reasons.
TWO manuals exist for traffic control at work sites.
My name should be in the old version, as a senior union delegate I was on the group that drew it up.
NO ROADWORKS can proceed on main roads without that detailed plan, site specific for the work in place.
Even details such as work tgrucks movement plan on site are contained there.
One fault exists Ludwig and motorist in general deserve to be told about the plan.
Site workers intimate understanding is far from that some motorists have
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 18 January 2014 3:42:02 PM
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With all this safety in mind, Belly, perhaps you could explain why, on the New England and Gwydir Highways there are blind corners with broken centre lines, indicating to the unwary that it is a safe passing place.

On the New England in the vicinity of Stonehenge there is a long straight with a car concealing dip in the middle of it, broken lines all the way.
I saw an example of the same thing on the Gwydir yesterday when a small car magically appeared ahead; he'd been it the dip as I came onto the straight.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 18 January 2014 4:13:23 PM
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Belly, as one who was involved with the a drafting of the first manual of traffic control at roadworks sites, can you tell me why there is almost always a very long distance between the end of the actual works site and the return to normal speed.

Occasionally you get to return to normal speed almost straight away, but 99% of the time, the lead-out slow zone is just as long as the lead-in slow zone on the other side of the road.

For some reason, which I have never been able to work out, the esteemed authorities deem it necessary, almost all of the time, to have the speed limit the same in both directions on any given stretch of road.

And yet there is an enormous difference between the need to reduce traffic speed considerably before the actual works site and the absolute lack of any need to keep it slow for the same bloody distance on the outward going stretch.

This is highly problematic, as it puts the law-abiding driver and normal driver at stark odds in the lead-out zone. The vast majority of drivers just ignore the completely stupid slow zones after the actual works sites.

One thing that really riles me and has done for many years is when I get pincered between a lawless driver behind me and a speed limit sign which obligates me to lawfully keep my speed considerably slower than what the mongrel tailgater wants me to do!! This happens at just about every roadworks site!

Please Belly, tell me what is this absurdity of slow lead-out zones from roadworks all about!
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 18 January 2014 8:55:16 PM
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