Foxy, Belly

I will only call someone a liar if that person deliberately states a falsehood.

Labor's "triumphs" were so successfully labelled as rorts or debacles was because independent third parties, such as the newspapers and the coroner, identified that while some positive outcomes were achieved that (a) they could easily have been achieved for a fraction of the cost to the tax payer (b) Many of the negative outcomes were predicted ahead of time, and no precautions were taken.

As for the joke that is Alan Austin, his huge ego compensates for his complete lack of qualifications in either journalism, or economics, and enables him to cherry pick information (often quoting himself as a source), and to draw breathtakingly dubious conclusions.

Belly,

I am sorry that you had such a terrible boss and that he left you so scarred that he left you unable to differentiate between one bad person and an entire profession.

Shadow Minister unlike another poster in this thread you have at least an average IQ and some wit in your posts.
I understand that barb and know you do not truly think I hate Engineers.
In fact I was telling you a solid truth.
That is you act just like my ex much despised, even by his peers ex Engineer.
In fact the NSW RTA has at least two such men in that roll.
And till death I remain proud that a true Engineer/state manager of our biggest civil constructor told me over coffee he had rejected one after he tried to get a job, *as he saw him as unfit to hold a traffic controllers sign.
Now SM your fixed mind can never see wrong on your side, that mind is lieing to you sir and your fixed veiw,s highlight you are of little worth in true debate, clinging to your straw man and defieing truth.

SM,

You've just confimed everything I stated in
my previous post. You've got the gall to call
Alan Austin a "joke," and question his qualifications.
Austin, a freelance journalist who's written for many
media outlets and has been published in most Australian
newspapers and online publications, including this forum.

Whose influential Uniting Church Report on prisons in
Victoria in the late 1980s led directly to the jailing
of prison officers for drug offences. Austin who's worked
as a journalist in Indonesia, China, and now France.
Who's special interests are the news media, religious
affairs, and economic and social issues which impact
the disadvantaged.

Yet I wonder how highly you hold the likes of people
like Piers Akerman, Janet Albrechtsen, Miranda Devine,
Andrew Bolt, et al and their opinions?

How on earth would you even recognise the truth,
when your News is Limited! ;-)

Foxy,

Just taking one of those journalists you ran down by insinuation Here, have a look to inform yourself,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Albrechtsen

Why in the hell would anyone, but especially another woman, dump on a talented, hard-working woman who has those skills and life experience, fought her way to the top in a highly competitive industry, and was on the board of the ABC for years?

You might not agree with her views, but that is no reason to sledge and belittle her.

BTW, what exactly does your Mr Austin have that beats the very talented Janet Albrechtsen?

Belly,

While no one should judge anyone on generalities, neither should one judge someone's personality based on the robust but single dimensioned robust discourse in this blog.

I genuinely hold you in regard, even though I feel you wear your heart too much on your sleeve, and commit to something based on belief rather than knowledge.

While I challenge your "balance" it is not a negative judgement, as to be so would require a detachment and dispassion in the subject that neither of us can claim, nor would want to.

Foxy,

I cannot find any bio of AA outside of the IA and New Matilda, neither of which carry any credibility. I cannot find any evidence of AA having any tertiary degree, nor could I find anything suggesting that his professional "journalism" extended beyond the religious.

His articles recently have had a focus on being an economic apologist for Labor, and his cut and paste / cherry picked offerings show logic and intellectual rigour so feeble that it would not pass muster at a first year university level.

SM,

I can fully understand your
regarding any news outlets
which are rational and principled, without being
biased to any social or political position as
lacking in "credibility."
It makes perfect sense and is in keeping with
your posting record on this forum.

You obviously want your News - Limited.

It makes perfect sense.