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Pink Bats Royal Commision

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It is unlikely to identify and lead to the correction of existing serious systemic problems in home building that result in sub-standard building in Australia. Sub-standard compared with the Standards and more so if comparison is made with home construction in (say) Europe.

It is noticeable for instance that no-one has mentioned that power points are installed without the cheap protective back-cover despite the aluminium sarking in walls for instance. Nor is there any concern apparent that electrical flex is bare in open roof areas, instead of being encased in the cheap plastic conduit as was previously required.

In home construction the Tribunals deal with thousands of complaints annually concerning fundamental, serious building construction breaches that most European builders would themselves be demanding a government inquiry and proactive inspection to keep out the hundreds of cowboys active in the industry.

But as well, cut-backs and sales of electricity supply have made electrical inspection of new homes a thing of the past.

However contractors are continually stretching the envelope in safety as well, with their corner-cutting. If anyone cares to join the dots, there are regular events, some reported, examples being balustrade and balcony collapses (many seriously injured in one instance in Queensland).
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/balcony-death-family-to-sue/story-e6freoof-1226360649808

The subject Royal Commission is narrowly focussed, which must give heart to all who are raking in windfall profits from the sub-standard building that is foisted upon Aussie consumers. Useful for political purposes but once again the builder's ute has left the site and only the superficial flaws are obvious, as the saying goes in Oz.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 11:03:00 AM
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Hi Belly,

Just taking a break from all the cooking.
The following link may be of interest:

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/12/16/policy-politics/royal-commission-without-mission

Fingers-crossed that the Royal Commission will be about
more than just finger-pointing and politics. Hopefully
they'll achieve something for the future safety of workers.
Otherwise - it's a very expensive way to try to gain
political mileage by the government.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 3:40:55 PM
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Hi Belly,

You started this thread about the RC into the pink bats and immediately followed your introduction with a giant Unicorn and mitigation for the sins of the ALP ingeneral and KRudd in particular.

As discussed previously, I do feel sorry for you. You cling to the remnants of the Union movement and the ALP, variously blaming “parts” of each movement for the transgressions that even you find hard to excuse.

There is no longer a “union movement” and there is no longer the traditional ALP that you once loved. Both have been subsumed by progressives that “appear” to share your ideology but they do not share your ”motivation or purpose”.

These Progressives were initially of great value to the traditional political Party left because the Progressives were able to represent the Labor party left in area’s where they had not traditionally enjoyed strong representation. These might include some of humanities academia, political elites, the so called intelligentsia, wealthy inner city dwellers, many bureaucrats, some in the judiciary, celebrities, activist media, commentariat and well resourced activist NGO’s. None of which could previously be described as part of the traditional working class or their representatives.

They are instead, professional power players in each and every domain they occupy. They have established and enjoy “parasitic” relationships with the groups (hosts) with which they choose to align themselves.

The trade union movement for example, initially benefited from the Progressives through the “injection” of external “professional” and academically qualified officials who in many cases “displaced” traditional representative member officials. It seems evident that this initial benefit soon evaporated as the new class of union officials/managers established themselves in the union management roles, drawing executive salaries and commensurate benefits packages.

You and your like have lost everything you ever supported. It serves no purpose to pretend that there is something of value left, particularly when you seek to blame others for the apathy of the true believers who allowed this all to happen on your watch.

Get over it and move on Belly, it’s over
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 3:51:03 PM
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Considering that this matter was well and truly investigated some time ago and handed down rulings and judgements, this new approach is nothing more than political opportunism and the chance for an Abbott free-kick.

Considering the main players have since left the stage even that will produce little of value, despite Team Abbott being well-and-truly on the decline.

However there may be unforseen consequences for how this and future governments should operate and it will be interesting to see if any resulting recommendations are adopted or quietly ignored.
Posted by wobbles, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 6:05:38 PM
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Spin Doc we some times agree, and I am sure you will agree with the following.
You are a master of spin!
Let me say yet again, Unions did want to control the installation and training of the pink bats installers.
As a membership drive tool,I too had my union had coverage wanted the same.
Rudd has no union background,his aim was to get the job done quickly spend the money and create jobs.

Here it gets difficult for some, the provider of the funding under law did not hold *any responsibility for the safe completion of the work*
The very same folk trying to linch Rudd and the unions,are the same ones who tried every trick to stop safety inspections under both work choices and current laws.
*Undoubtedly, no defence, some shonks got some contracts for this work*
Hold Rudd morally guilty if you insist.
But current work place safety law says first it is Employer/and some times Employee who are guilty.
Abbott is ruling as he did in opposition.
He is spending millions to slander the ALP and Rudd.
He is no leader and is served by the worst front bench ever seen in this country.
Thanks Foxy I am posting after my visitors go to be and before they getup.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 6:29:41 PM
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I agree with Belly on this one.
I thought the verdict was already out on all those slack pink bat providers?

Why is this Government continuing on with this expensive venture when they have cut down on some of their pre-election promises in other areas?

Surely it's not simply Abbott having a go at the previous Government's obvious stuff-ups when we already know they stuffed up?
It's an expensive way of saying so, if that is the case...
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 6:54:13 PM
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