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Pink Bats Royal Commision

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Not taking a shot at you CG just telling it like it is.
It became a separate industry truck roll overs and a spotter got $500 for being first in, a Cop got that too.
And a mental list became educational for every truck driver, say this if you crash list, load shifted, car on high beam, car on wrong side of the road.
Police took or had handed to them goods from every prang, tea coffee some times export packed meat and always in great quantity boot load to divy vans to? hiring a four ton truck to take three pallets of frozen cooked fish.
A drive of such a lorry rarely faced much of a fine, hard if you have gained quite a lot from his smash.
ICAC put and end to the crews waiting to cash in.
And at least a start was made mid to late 1990s to clean up the industry.
Lorry owner drivers are in lessor numbers and very much more professional.
Firms truly demand professional conduct at all times from every employee.
But some, see the headlines,damage speed monitors and pay for speed not safety.
22 years on the then DMR/RTA I saw too many deaths car and truck, single truck, saw mates die.
Saw a great husband and wife ex prison warden go broke trying to both be honest and too drive within the rules.
Not many years ago a TV crew asked 8 blokes in a truck stop if they would agree to be tested all said OK 6 failed, failed badly.
The road transport industry kills many drivers and innocent car drivers, car drivers kill truck drivers but why is this industry the only single one work cover never goes near after a death?
You are sharing the roads with that nice bloke down the road who is off his head on drugs.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 30 December 2013 2:45:38 PM
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I noticed SM and others thoughts and comments, but just can not agree with them.
However this I pledge if the mirror I have put to you about Australia s Road Transport industry is not true *then I am a worthless lier*
Chris Gaff please sport do not think my words in any way aim at you.
Know I do think a good Cop is worth far more than we can ever pay.
I have suffered, just because I worked [second job] for the biggest and best truck salvage firm.
They brooked no graft and did not use the police approved towy.
After work thrown in the back of a divy van driven at speed over a rough road I was pushed in to a sergeants office and lectured!
He may still regrete it, he was new and acted for a totally dirty large area police stations crew.
I stood my ground and followed his warning *get out of the industry* with my own, be honest or be found out.

Time passed police lost jobs, the newbys went the motor of the criminal activity's stayed.
ICAC knocked on my door, other victims of this cartel had named me to help.
Chief inspector of Police, you will know him CG offered me anything to give evidence.
Including a life time government job.
Do you know why I refused?
You can not ever beat a bent cop he has his team behind him, they feel all bar one and he likes glaring at me all these years after nearly as much as I like grinning at him.
He probably is not yet out of coffee and tea or sope powder even now but he remains unmarked.
We need a Royal Commission it to the safety and licensing practices of our road transport industry.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 30 December 2013 3:03:51 PM
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chrisgaff1000,

I know of no Royal Commission that ever served a political interest, or obviously 'delivered the political goods' for an incumbent government. In fact a government has to be courageous to set one up because they go where they want and are fearless in rooting out evidence and reporting.

Many RCs have resulted in police investigations and charges. The Fitzgerald RC into the Queensland police resulted in three former ministers and a police commissioner in gaol and the ex-premier only just escaped gaol, but his reputation was forever damaged as a result. The long successful run of the National Party was stopped in its tracks.

In my view RCs investigate and report and then it is up to the parliament to take action. Auditors are about the same. Keep them clean and independent, facts and recommendations, you don't want them involved where the investigators should be.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 30 December 2013 4:55:56 PM
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onthebeach
Fitzgerald was honest and ruthless but I can assure you he did not investigate, charge, prosecute and lock up one single person. He had no power to.
That job was down to seconded cops like myself and my partner who put our lives on the line to face off with the filth that ran Queensland at the time.
At one point in time we were billeted in a caravan park at Banora Point in NSW and the whole side of the caravan was ripped off by Brisbane CIB detectives totting M16s and wearing BP vests.
They carted us off to Brisbane and held us overnight. The next day we were driven to Ipswich and locked up in the Ipswich Special Hospital (Sandy Gallop)and it took a Habeas Corpus writ in The High Court in Adelaide filed by Harry Gibbs (later Sir Harry and Chief Justice)to get us out of being scheduled (all down to Joe and his SOD Squad)
We got over 100 bent coppers but missed a 1000 more because the money ran out.
What he did do was expose the root corruption in the job and the politicians hanging off the tit.
Whatever you do 'onthebeach' don' try to lecture me about the Fitzgerald RC. I know the man well, so well he appointed me his bodyguard in his Cape York Commission of Inquiry later on.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 30 December 2013 11:23:23 PM
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chrisgaff1000, "Fitzgerald was honest and ruthless but I can assure you he did not investigate, charge, prosecute and lock up one single person"

Where did I say that? I didn't, did I? Those are your words not mine.

You need to read my post more carefully. Because I said it resulted in charges etc. From a normal reading most would take that as meaning that the RC report resulted in investigations being undertaken and as a consequence charges were laid, NOT that the commissioner himself laid the charges or even found the evidence. That is not the role of RCs, as I explained to you.

You will find that my wording is very close to the Wikipedia entry on the subject and relevant news reports. See here,

< The inquiry resulted in the deposition of a premier, two by-elections, the jailing of three former ministers and a police commissioner who was jailed and lost his knighthood. It also led directly to the end of the National Party of Australia's 32-year run as the government of Queensland.>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzgerald_Inquiry

The whole tenor of my reply was that such inquiries (RCs) do not do the work of investigators and police, they do not lay charges. There are very good reasons for that. Perhaps you might go back and read my post again, and read the brief for the present RC from the link I gave in an earlier post.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 2:35:38 AM
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Chris Gaff 1000 you are an interesting bloke.
And highlight just why I refused to give evidence to NSW ICAC if you had to face that what chance did I have.
A book lives inside your head that would make you very rich, one I would be first in line to buy.
You and I differ forever on politics but I watched that RC not even guessing how bad it truly was.
A mate once highway patrol then NSW internal investigations helped me while in the former job to separate myself from being a victim/telling my story others did and lost much.
A Royal Commission by its nature costs heaps, I truly and honestly would rather see the current ICAC investigation become a RC to further dig up the NSW FILTH *in my party* than the wasted Abbott weapon of war his RC in truth is.
And Rechtub, true! your insulting view I am only targeting mad Tony?
NSW FILTH should have every cent they own confiscated and serve nothing less than 20 years, hows is that for bias?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 8:40:44 AM
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