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Shock......If six students are sharing a house, how can each of them "debit card" their share?

Simple, EFTPOS or direct debit, as most agents are set up for that.

Now if you want to pay cash to avoid taxes, than that's your choice.

......rectub, so who are these all-wise Inquisitors who'll decide which goods and services are "wasteful" (i.e. "sinful")?

Alcohol, cigs and gambling.

.....Gambling may produce a windfall, getting them off welfare *for life* and starting a business that employs hundreds of others.

Yep, but the stats suggest otherwise. Besides, do you think it's responsible to gamble with others money, because after all, welfare is a gift from the tax payer, not a given right, dont you think.

....Are they "wasting" their money?

Again, it's not their money. Besides, are they wasting their share, or the kids.

In other words, if they loose, do they go hungry, or the kids.

....Can you buy beer/wine/spirits with a restaurant meal?
No, because Mcdonnalds does not sell them.

Now if you can afford better on the dole, then perhaps you are over paid!

.....All businesses have the legal right to accept cash, so *all* customers should have the equivalent right to pay cash. For anything!

Yes, and the answer is simple, GO AND EARN IT.

Besides, businesses will either adapt, or go out of business.

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Comt....My corner store charges a fee for every EFTPOS transaction and has a minimum spend.
You are now forcing people on very low incomes to buy more goods than they immediately need and pay a fee every time, when they could have just paid cash.

Yes, I agree. But you can't win it all.

....So why not just pay cash and let the recipient decide how to spend it.
You're not saving any money, if they still get the same total value.

Because a percentage of that money is for the children, and it's the children that usually miss out when gigs, grog and gambling form part of the weekly spend.

....Would you want your employer deciding how their staff spend their salary?
They're the ones with the authority to *pay* you.

Different, as they have earned this.

You have to remember, I am talking about welfare, not earnings.

Now perhaps we could see a limited amount of cash withdrawal each payment cycle.

Say $40. This should pay the train fair and odd corner store purchase.

OUG, you have to remember that we are all provided with an equal opportunity to fail.

Hasbeen, we live in a unsidedown world don't we, as the more you contribute, the less you get rewarded.

Figure that one out.

The reality is we can't continue to support every swinging dick, plus those who illegally choose to make this their home, at our expense.

Something has to give and we tax payers are the easiest target.

Ideally the debit card would not be needed.
However no end of Docs people and school teachers will tell you about
the kids that come to school hungry and their parents smoking like
chimneys.
That is why the old adage "Don't let government interfere with my rights." falls apart.

There really are times when interference is necessary.

Rectub:

I have noticed over years now that many, many businesses
issue a receipt for payment of services on a official-looking
piece of paper ejected from an EFTPOS machine or electronic
Cash Register.

Invariably the receipt fades rapidly and becomes illegible
after a few weeks.

The implications of this can be disastrous:

Loss of proof of purchase (should it be neccesary to claim on Warranty)

Difficulty in reconciling expenditure, balanced against personal
or business bank account.

Worst for us all (at least those NOT in business and
utilizing the issuing of receipts), is that the same illegibility
is occurring in the keeping of physical receipts by business,
thus leaving open the opportunity by business to "fudge" their
own Income and turnover figures, creating a loss of Income
Revenue at Tax time!

Another good one is: "Would you like a receipt?"

These are sopme of the obvious areas that Government should be
looking at before bastardizing the Old Age Pensioners ( who are
as usual the least equipped to fight back!)

Crackcup, the paper you refer to is 'thermal paper' whereby the info is burned in, not printed.

I share your frustration, but the tax depts simple solution is to copy each receipt for your records.

More red tape.

As for businesses receipts fading, again it's our responsibility to make a copy.

As for fudging it, I suspect the tiny amount who do this are not worth the effort to chase, however they would get caught if audited.

Has no one read Hockey's message ?
It is in there if you want to think about it.

He has a few things wrong such as thinking he can increase growth, but
he is not on his own there.

No the real message is;

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY !