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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 9 December 2013 11:07:50 AM
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Banjo, The word marriage has thousands of years of use referring to the sexual commitment of a man and a woman. Similarly homosexuality has been around for a similar period - it is a perfectly good descriptive word of their sexual relationship. There are other descriptive words used of same gender sexuality in common use that describe perfectly their relationship.
Catholic Priests are very nice men to which Catholic parents give their children into their care. Similarly Homosexual men can be equally nice people. Both can be predisposed to intimacy with male children. However our society has failed to give good paternal roles to boys as 1 in 3 are raised by their lone mother. Imagine if they are raised in a two mother household and neither was a biological parent. Boys need male roles of provision for a family and leadership. Posted by Josephus, Monday, 9 December 2013 7:58:51 PM
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You are right there Josephus, paedophiles are present in all walks of society, and are no more prevalent amongst homosexuals than any other group.
As far as adoption goes, the few babies available for adoption in this country will go to a heterosexual family because most relinquishing mothers (parents) will request that for their babies. There are a few who will say they would be ok with their baby going to any loving family of any sexuality, and it is these babies who may go to homosexual couples. However, it is overwhelmingly Asian and Indian countries who allow this sort of adoption or surrogacy for homosexual couples. I say good luck to them... Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 9 December 2013 10:28:22 PM
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While on the subject of overseas surrogacy and adoption,
Couple offered son to paedophiles http://www.theage.com.au/national/couple-offered-son-to-paedophiles-20130630-2p5eg.html Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 5:30:08 AM
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Father Joe, I think it is disgusting of you saying;
"Catholic Priests are very nice men to which Catholic parents give their children into their care. Similarly Homosexual men can be equally nice people. Both can be predisposed to intimacy with male children." Produce evidence of widespread pedophilia amongst homosexual men, granted there is overwhelming evidence against Catholic priests, what are you predisposed to, its certainly not Christianity by that statement. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 6:14:05 AM
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Jay it was common practice pre war and shortly after, often through economic circumstance children were passed around amongst family members, even to extended family, for raising and care. They were hard times, and there were few other choices for people. Even my own mother who was a farm girl in western NSW, her family was "relatively" well off. Mum at 16 was sent pre war to Sydney to live with an old spinster aunt in Redfern. Aunt quickly got mum working for a rich eastern suburbs family 6 days a week for 15/-. Mum said Aunt took 10 bob a week board.
My partner "T" came from a poor family of 13 in NZ, her youngest sister was raised by her oldest sister in her house, there is about 30 years difference in their ages and younger sister always seen older sis as "mum", there real mum died when younger sis was about 1. After her death a few of the younger children were moved about, but even to this day the family bond is strong with all of them. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 6:38:07 AM
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That used to happen a lot among whites as well, my great grandmother was raised from infancy by her aunt and uncle and called them mum and dad. My mother in law was raised by her grandparents and my mum was sent to live with relatives in Melbourne for extended periods of time when my grandfather was sick or unable to work because of his war injuries.
There's an interview in a book I'm reading about Edwardian England where a mother is cursing the fact that her sister didn't offer to take on her nieces "She with only the two and me with eight and a husband off work".
Lately I've come to accept that all these diverse and unorthodox living arrangements and family structures are inevitable because they've always existed, talking to my mum about it at the weekend she said there were people when she was growing up who were openly gay in a small country town in the 1950's. I even recall in the 1970's a very elderly Lesbian couple in our street, one of whom still got about dressed in 1940's men's suits and hats and carried a Gladstone bag like all the other old timers.
That said Mum pointed out that parents always kept one eye on the kids and one on the sexually eccentric adults when they were about and it was tolerated but not accepted.