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cont'd ...

I forgot to add that if you Google the hisstory
of the word "n*gger" - it's meaning has been
derogatory - and that was the point that was
being made.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 29 November 2013 5:10:12 PM
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Political correctness is so prevalent and deeply rooted in Australia that much of the time people do not even realise when they self-censor.

It provides for interesting media watching though. For example, ABC television is rather proud of its 'challenging' of its rather staid, traditional viewers (as it sees them) through abundant use of offensive language and gratuitous porn. I am told there was a show recently where the ABC revelled in its record of shocking its viewers over the years - tres avant garde, 'Progressive' and leftie as it likes to be over the last decade or two. It has moved well away from the satire of Monty Python to one-sided politics and coarseness.

I don't care, but taxpayers should get value for money and reasonable independence. It is hypocritical of the ABC not to publish its rather obvious informal editorial policy, preferring to hide behind that buffed-up, boring formal editorial policy that is only remarkable for what it leaves out.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 29 November 2013 6:04:53 PM
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Hi Foxy, When it comes to derogatory names no one can hold a match to the names we had for European migrants of the 1950's and 60's. Besides your standard wog, we also had a multitude of other names, dago, reffo, spick, garlic muncher, just to name a few, the best they could come up with was calling us "skippies", no talent that mob. So these days with nothing better than "towel head" for migrants from the Middle East, I think the "standard" of insult has certainly dropped.
I do believe the word Eskimo is no longer acceptable in Canada, its now Inuit, nor is the word Indian in the US, its Native American. Some how I don't think kids play "cowboys and native Americans" has quite the same ring.
I give Te some stick every time she calls me a Pakeha, I've told her the correct term is "person of superior intellect". LOL
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 30 November 2013 7:39:45 AM
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Dear Paul,

Thanks for the reminders and you're right of course
with some words - changes don't quite have the same impact
as in days of old. -
Like "swamp thing" (creature of the deep), today would
be called a "wetlands challenged mutant."
Not the same impact.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 30 November 2013 10:24:55 AM
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kevin07, copped it for his famous attempt at an ockerism "fair suck of the sauce bottle" which seems to have been a botched job on "fair suck of the sav" Kev tried to keep it going, and failed badly. What he should have then said was. "Fair dinkum, stone the crows, come off the grass, fair go mate, strike me lucky can't a bloke make a galah of himself without a bunch of sheilas take'n the piss out of the poor bastard"
“Fair suck of the sav” roughly translates as “fair go”. So if you are at a backyard bbq and one bloke is really pigging out, an Aussie might say “Fair suck of the sav, Mate”, to let them know that they are taking more than their fair share.

It can also be used to express awe or disbelief of something that is perceived as unfair, like “you’ve got to be kidding” As for fair suck of the sauce bottle, well, what kind of nincompoop comes out with that, and then throws a wabble, must be a drongo!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 30 November 2013 12:43:37 PM
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Dear Paul,

The writer Bryce Courtenay wrote sometime ago,
on the topic of words.

I've quoted him in the past and think it appropriate
to do so again.

He spoke about words that spread smooth as picnic butter.
And words that jab hard and suddenly leave your lips
stinging and your head ringing. Words with big, round,
soft, open vowels, and words with tight, hurtful little
orifices...like "sneak."

He pointed out that "there is anatural alluvial language
on our doorstep waiting to be mined. It is as Australian
as a Chiko roll and as familiar as a kookaburra's raucous
laugh. And it's ours to use any way we damn well please.

He then gave an example which he heard on a Friday
afternoon running late to catch the last flight out of
Wagga:

"Sorry, ocker, the Fokker's chocka!"

Here's another:

"Johnno's so laid-back, he's practically fly-blown!"

The point that Bryce was making was that "there is a lust
for life in much of our language. It is covered in yellow
dust and hardened by drought, then made soggy again with too
much rain, rendered tough once more by bad times and fluffy
as a lamington by good fortune yet again restored."

Bryce was encouraging our writers not to become too concerned
with whape and form and ancient purity of language. Instead
he advised them to build a well-constructed plot and tell
a rattling yarn.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 30 November 2013 1:05:50 PM
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