Dear SPQR,

Don't you mean the Moran family or the Williams
clan ?
There's a series on TV called, "Australian
Families of Crime," you should watch it. It's
quite revealing if you're concerned about
"break-ins". Anyway I'm now going to go and watch
the "Keating" series. Interesting stuff. I enjoyed
the earlier John Howard series. Who knows they may
even do one on Mr Abbott sometime in the future.
Although I imagine it won't be a four-part series.

Foxy,

Aaaah! Once you've seen one crime family expose (or ABC/SBS News report) you've seen them all. The only thing outside the mold recently was "Lincoln Lawyer".

Cheers

Dear SPQR,

When my parents went to school history probably
involved memorizing names of famous people and
dates of famous events: Kings and Queens,
scientists and statesmen, wars, revolutions,
explorations. To me that's only part of the
story. I feel that if we really want to know
about the past we need to know - how people lived,
what they thought about themselves and their world,
how they solved their problems, and so on. To do this
it's necessary to study not only the "superstars" of
the age, but the ordinary people, the men, women, and
children, old people, and minority
groups. This is social history - the study of society
in the past. Of course we must be able to ask the
relevant questions and listen, not only for the answers,
but for the silences.

Foxy,
<< we need to know - how people lived...not only the "superstars" ... ordinary people... minority groups>>

What you say has some merit but I am afraid that in many of our humanity subjects/fields it has gone waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond that.

Many humanity subjects are now little short of one-eyed leftwing indoctrination --no exaggeration. I would not have believed if I had not seen it.

That is why I said to you on a different thread that what Iftikhar posted isn't an isolated extreme viewpoint, it is the standard fare in many of our Unis.

Foxy,

Juliar was fired by her party after the voters abandoned her and everything she stood for. While she has many sycophants, there are many more that despise her.

P,

The mafia are corrupt, have no respect for the rule of law or individual right, are completely without principles, continuously line their own pockets from the earnings of the poorest, will do anything to retain power, and will take severe action against anyone that speaks out against them.

Exactly like the labor/greens/union alliance. I was going to try and compare them with the Tea party, however, the Tea party at least has principles they stick to and keep their promises.

The thread however, was about the Green Tea party adopting the tea party tactics, if not their morals.

Dear SPQR,

I will disagree with you as my experience is
totally different from yours and I find the poeple
like Iftikhar are a minority and not the rule.

As far as what's being taught at universities,
again, we have an excellent example in Professor
Abdullah Saeed, Sultan of Oman, Professor of Arab and
Islamic Studies at the University of Melbourne,
Director of Asia Institute at the University of Melbourne,
Adjunct Professor, School of Law, University of
Melbourne, and the list goes on.

Professor Saeed has done great work at the Asia Institute
and has been heavily involved in both the university
and the community. He's written many books on the subject
of Muslims in Australia, and is totally different to
what Iftikhar espouses.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this issue.