Foxy.."Since then, the Australian Government has re-defined
"multiculturalism."
"Multiculturalism involves living together
with an awareness of cultural diversity."

Define living together Foxy?

Does this mean a Muslim or a black father will allow
his daughter to marry a non-muslim. Truly living
together as one people normally do.

Or does it mean living divided? more like sharing the wealth
and land living together, but not living together as intimates
in marriage, family and homes or indeed even the the same suburbs
as people who are really accepting and willing to share intimacy
and living together would do.

If there are barriers, then the second definition is not really
living together on the human level is it? When groups
are told they must accept these cultural barriers as to why
people refuse to really live together because it's their culture
or religion to not do so, then this promotes divided living together.

Like... them over there and us over here. Real acceptance of
other cultures and people means really living together, not
just playing some game that enforces division with the use
of twisted logic, that says we should be free to live in our divided
group because of our culture and religion which has no intention
of every living together with the other group as families do.
You shall never be permitted to live with us on that level.

If your definition of living together is the second one above,
then it is a very divided, shallow kind of living together and
frankly bigoted and racist.

the two state solution
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15619

i..still favor the city-sized/state..micro states
under some duel body[mens womens]..of the un

2 levels of govt..many safe refuges for refugees
never able to be exiled more than..a city apart[globaly]

or states centered around our educational zones
a state/council services run from schools
school run by mens/womans boards

i figure..if you can afford to live anywhere
you got the right to be welcome..there

lets see beyond race sex/states..big govt..endless destraction
if you can pay stay..if you cant..the police take you all the way home

schools run..local council..zones

@ CHERFUL, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 1:05:51 PM

Good post.

Afraid I must stand against a friend here and say great post CHEERFUL.
See no matter how much we try to hide it the truth is many, far too big a number to ignore, from within this faith do not want inclusiveness.
They do however want our social security system, and every thing they can bleed out of it.
Untrue? no way!
Some here for more than a decade are still leeching on it! NUMBERS PLEASE MR ABBOTT!

Dear CHERFUL,

I was merely giving a historical account taken
from historical government records as to what the
Australian government policies were of the past
regarding migrants and how every ethnic origin
were expected to assimilate promptly into a
monocultural mould of Australian identity based on
the the Anglo-Saxon and Celtic culture.

As I stated in my earlier post the ideal
immigrant was the one who assimilated easily, one who
became more similar to the host population as a
result of social interaction and through the shedding of
attributes of their culture.

However, in time, revised immigration policy reflected
social developments in Australia and the official
Government policies moved from "assimilation" to
"integration," and then, to "multiculturalism."

It was the Galbally Report in 1978 that was the turning point
when it urged the Australian Government to "encourage the
retention of the cultural heritage of different ethnic
groups and promote intercultural understanding."

Since than, the Australian Government has re-defined
"multiculturalism" several times.

One simple definition states, "Multiculturalism involves
living together with an awareness of cultural diversity."

The keyword here is "an awareness." But of course as I also
stated the concept of multiculturalism continues to have
different meanings for different people.

Australia today is a gathering of many cultures and this
is one of the most unique and rewarding aspects of living
in Australia. The nature of being Australian is to be
part of this diversity. The wide and varied gathering of
"identities" is in keeping with the sense of potential
and openess so many people enjoyed on coming here.

As I've stated in the past many times, I feel privileged
to have been born here and to have been ablt to make
a home here and also to have found my own sense of
belonging.

cont'd ...

Dear CHERFUL,

I shall try to answer your question as to
what a Muslim or black or white father, would or
would not do in the case of allowing his daughter/son
to marry (or not) someone outside their culture?

That I guess would depend on their individual
decisions and thinking. I can't make assumptions
about what other people would or would not do.
And yes, some would probably opt for being divisive,
be they Muslim, Catholic, Jew, or Anglican. Black
or White. Many would prefer to maintain their own
cultures - strictly speaking.

However, in my own family - we have inter-marriage
with various cultures. Which I thin is more
the norm in this country, and has been for
generations now. We have a vast family of
English, Scottish, Chinese, German, Russian, and
Lithuanian relatives. As I imagine that many
Australian families follow suit. We're proud of that
mix and we happily live and share together. It makes
life interesting. Our children and grand-children
speak several languages.

I hope that answers your question.