The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > Time for Parental Intervention?

Time for Parental Intervention?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. ...
  10. 13
  11. 14
  12. 15
  13. All
You are right Belly.
I have always believed in climate change, but was only recently convinced that humans directly affected climate change.

Given that SPQR and his other anti-science friends on this site are so against this concept, I am even more convinced!

Abbott told us, and he probably still feels, that climate change is 'cr#p'.
He also told us he would stop the boats and get tough on the Indonesians.
All politicians lie...
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 10 November 2013 3:15:29 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear SPQR,

Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt do not support any of their
opinions with facts, therefore they can't be
taken seriously or given much credit.

However
in the case of Wendy Bacon - she in her report
did not cite her opinion but based the report on
facts that examined 10 newspapers across two
3 month periods in 2011 and 2012. The facts stand.
And facts are what we're dealing with here.

People
who deal with slogans only, should not expect to be
taken seriously. It's not surprising therefore that
CNN, the BBC, and Time magazine ridicule the Coalition's
climate scepticism - and their coverage of climate
change is simply very different from Australian
coverage - Mr Bolt and Mr Jones are less than credible.
And that's not being biased - that's stating the facts.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong - but not thus far.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 November 2013 3:36:29 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Hi Foxy,

<<Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt do not support any of their opinions with facts>>
If you ever cared to check you would find that Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt do generally support their views with evidence. You might not agree with their take on the evidence, I often don't, but it's far from the truth to say: "[they] do not support any of their opinions".
And it's even further from the truth to say that, that is the reason you don't like them!

<<Wendy Bacon ...did not cite her opinion but based the report on facts that examined 10 newspapers across two 3 month periods in 2011 and 2012>>
Wendy or her confederates simply looked at the papers and formed an opinion as to whether they were negative or positive -- in view of her political leanings & stated agendas those assessments must be suspect.

<<It's not surprising therefore that CNN, the BBC, and Time magazine ridicule the Coalition's climate scepticism - and their coverage of climate change is simply very different from Australian coverage>>
The image you are trying to paint is that poor little Oz & the dastardly coalition are the odd ones out.The reality is that climate scepticism is much more pronounced in "Anglo-saxon" countries generally than elsewhere.A fact the ABC Science Show has whined about a number of times.
See here: <<Poles Apart: the international reporting of climate scepticism concludes that climate scepticism is largely an Anglo-Saxon phenomenon, found most frequently in the US and British newspapers>>
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/ipcc-report3a-newspaperse28099-sober-assessment-of-the-scie/4999776

Now you may ask why that may be the case? --well, you'd probably never ask that, but others might ask that question.And I'll suggest that it might just have a lot to do with it being the case that under any of the IPCC climate change mitigation or compensation initiatives it will be the "Anglo-saxon" countries who will footing the bill--and they are talking about trillion$$$$$ anyone who doesn't challenge the basis for the such a charge before signing off on it needs to have their head examined.
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 10 November 2013 5:00:51 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
When I am seeking information on climate change I do not seek the opinions of people such as Bolt, Jones and Bacon et al.
I try to find sources and people with no axe to grind, no political leanings.
Everything changes as does climate, take out the egos and the politics and we may have a chance of finding out exactly what is happening to the climate and what we can do about it, if anything.
There is every chance we can do little and will just have to take what is served up to us, if not us, our children.
Maybe our children will do a better job than us of managing the planet, we certainly have little to be proud of.

SD
Posted by Shaggy Dog, Sunday, 10 November 2013 6:07:02 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Craig Isherwood on Green Fascism

Citizens Electoral Council leader Craig Isherwood has today given a half-hour interview to LPAC-TV in the U.S., on the history of the British Crown’s green fascism, and the CEC’s political fight in Australia to defeat the green agenda.

Click here to view this interview.
http://larouchepac.com/node/26342
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 10 November 2013 7:11:59 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
"If you ever cared to check you would find that Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt do generally support their views with evidence. You might not agree with their take on the evidence, I often don't, but it's far from the truth to say: "[they] do not support any of their opinions"."

Well, that's a good one!

We are talking about science when dealing with climate.

Jones and Bolt blather partisan contrarian opinion to the gullible.

They don't do empirical "evidence" full stop.

So I'll say they do not support their opinion with anything resembling evidence....they support their opinion with junk-science claptrap.

Cheers
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 10 November 2013 7:22:16 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. ...
  10. 13
  11. 14
  12. 15
  13. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy