Is Mise, I think most of us are bright enough to teach our kiddies these values without referring to any religious text.

I would imagine that the humans living before these books were written (by humans) must have managed to survive without them? Are we to ignore all history books other than the fictional bible? Why?

Are you suggesting no one thought that killing someone else was a problem before a bunch of guys 2000 years ago decided an invisible man in the sky told them so?
Lol!

We, as a society, can also decide now what people can or cannot do as far as marriage goes, without some guys who worship gods telling us what is or isn't a 'sin'.

Suse, why is someone a bigot, just because they don't approve of what homosexuals do to each other. Perhaps those practices have been legitimized by the rampant pron industry, which is aiding the homos.

Personally I don't give a damn what homos do to whom, with what, or how, but I would like them to do it quietly. The sight of masses of them jumping up & down in a parade does leave me cold to say the least.

As a 15 year old I was accosted by a male family friend. I don't know whether that makes him a homosexual or a pedophile, but whatever, I get a nasty taste in my mouth just thinking about men on men.

I was already playing hooker in the senior school team, so the bloke was a bit lucky not to be injured, but it does colour my thinking.

I believe marriage, as an institution, is dying anyway, so why bother. About the only thing that will save it is the Islamisation of Oz, & the introduction of sharia law. This won't help the homosexuals, as they would immediately be beheaded. Perhaps being one of a registered same sex couple may not be such a good idea, if Tony doesn't manage to stop the boats.

What I really do look forward to is the bitching that will occur when homosexual married couples cop the turbid justice handed out by the family court. Now that will be fun to watch, & they will have no one but themselves to blame.

Hasbeen, the Wikipedia definition of bigot says:
"Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics."

So yes, by your obvious dislike of homosexual men, you are, by definition, a bigot.
They are born homosexual, and how they live and choose to lawfully display themselves in public is their own business.

I don't like watching heterosexual couples in the street with their tongues down each other's throat either, but I don't condemn all heterosexual people as debauched or disgusting because of that.

I'm assuming you don't believe the new marriage laws for Gay marriage in the ACT are good? How will any gay couple getting married personally affect you?

I totally support gay barrage. Good to sec the ACT making a commitment on this with their new law. Lets hope its not long before Tony Abbott can attend the wedding of his sister to her partner. Love to all.

Suse,

The Bible ain't all fiction; the Israeli's worked out, roughly, where Moses was in the 'Burning Bush' episode and found oil.

"Are you suggesting no one thought that killing someone else was a problem before a bunch of guys 2000 years ago decided an invisible man in the sky told them so?
Lol!"

Probably was a problem otherwise why codify the prohibition?

Just so that you don't make the same mistake again, the Bible was finished well before the birth of Christ, some 2,000 years ago, its actual age is a matter of conjecture but the latest evidence puts some of its books back to at least 4,000 BC.

Paul,

Marriage between a man and a woman is based on a natural act, homosexual marriage is based on the un-natural therefore it can not exist under the same definition as heterosexual marriage.