SM,

I used to think, when I first came here, that you demonstrated a little mature intellectual merit.

Slowly over time you have disabused me of this view.

Sad but true.

Any info on firestorms recorded in mid October?

Poirot, Did you know every thing SM posts is a plain truth supported by "common knowledge." his truth, his knowledge.
"in one of the councils in Sydney, a home owner requested to remove a tree bough from a road side tree that stretched over his driveway, the council reviewed it and refused."
SM unless you can provide evidence for this statement, other than to claim its "common knowledge" I say you are making it up. Which council, when did it happen and how many Green members were on the council at the time, and how they influenced the council officers decision on the matter.
Just for you SM a link to The Greens NSW policy in question.

http://nsw.greens.org.au/policies/bushfires

"Are you seriously going to try and pretend that the Greens oppose the regulations that prevent bush clearance around houses?" can you support this with a reference to Greens policy, I think not.

Don't forget to bring your knitting.

Sunday saw me with a group of men eating lunch in a park, highly suspicious?
No an innovation.
Ham radio club meeting.
Hard to get enough in a room.
One was a senior fire fighter in say a government department.
From that group as is ham radio habit over half are ex fire fighters.
All agreed those fires this early are a concern.
All too found nothing surprising in this truth *fire bugs lite almost all*
The forest ground cover of dead and drying fuel is high,the current drought, yes it is back, in those areas, indeed mine and the out of session heat all came together .
Without rain soon my area will again be in the news.
Paul is nearer right than wrong, yes greens have policy,s that make fires worse.
Last year a plan to run power stations using the high stacks of wood left after logs are remove and timber mill waste was rejected by greens and Labor.
And it too will burn,in the bush it is left to rot in,it will burn for days.
And its sparks will be mother to many fires.
Remember please if we, all of us,entered any land to cold burn next winter radio shock jocks would get mums and dads from all sides ringing in to name us vandals.
Writing letters for local members and papers building pressure to see the next fire event is as bad as those we have just seen and will see before winter rescues us, maybe.

Belly,

Over here in SW WA we have had a a lot of steady rain.

It rained solidly all the way through September and well into October. We have record areas of undergrowth...and the minute we warm up which has already started this stuff dries out very quickly.

It's already too late for back burning as it's starting to warm up.

Not Green's fault.

Tell me, if fires of that magnitude start so early in the season, when does the back burning take place?

Because there hasn't been a window for back burning over here.

Paul,

There you go! you take one comment of mine and claim that none of my posts are supported. That is patently dishonest and by definition a lie. Obviously your debating skills are so feeble you have to lie, and try puerile ad hominem attacks.

I provided earlier in this thread a link to where the mayor of Port Stephens said almost exactly what I did, and an example of where someone was fined for creating a fire barrier on his own property which saved his house. While this is not absolute proof, this is more than sufficient to support my assertions. And while I have put forward some evidence for my point of view, you have provided nothing other than a vague and ambiguous policy statement, and the onus is on you to prove your position.

As for my comment on the action taken on the broken bough, I never claimed there were greens involved, nor is it relevant, as it was given as an example of where a council can be forced to consider the safety of residents over stupid regulations.

Parrot,

Firstly I care little for you opinion especially as it consists of ridiculing anyone that holds a contrary position, and your "Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk" comment places your maturity at a floor level which nearly every poster exceeds. I look forward to when you show even a modicum of intellectual rigour.

SM,

".....a modicum of intellectual rigour."

Like this, you mean?

"Parrot"

Yeah, I can see that you have the bar set at an unreasonable level.

I don't know if I can get that low.

Limbo, perhaps?