OTB started this thread to score political points have no doubt about that.
Then telling one with opinions other than his that is their crime.
Like me or loath me a true is hidden here.
Greens and the mention of them are of little use in conservation/climate matters.
Far to many of us shut the minds door when issues we should be very concerned about are mentioned by the greens.
If scoring points is our target let us all look at Abbott,s refusal to tell us what is taking place in t5he refugee/boat arrival areas.
Based on his refusal to share information it seems Labors policy, the one he uses still, has slowed the boats but upped the bad handling of the arrivals.

The last thing Abbott and his ilk want is anyone linking their do nothing policy on climate change to a disaster like the NSW bushfires. These so called skeptics know that the consequences of them being wrong on the issue is nothing short of horrific weather events in the future which will impact on the lives of millions of people. These fools much prefer, to firstly peddle their false sympathy for the immediate victims. Nothing like compassion and concern to win a bit of popularity with the plebs. Then if a messenger should step forth and state the obvious and question their falsehoods and culpability, these fools fly into a hateful rage of indignation against the messenger, calling upon all "right thinking" people to rise and smite the blasphemer, all along deflecting any possible scrutiny of their failure to act on the very cause of these cataclysmic evens. Like Nero these cretins much prefer to shed false tears for the poor victims of their folly, while all alone masking their real concerns for money and profit.

hey Canberra had its coldest winter morning for October recorded a few days ago. Abbott of course is to blame. The science is settled.

Paul1405,

Your reasoning ref. the crass and unfeeling remarks of Bandt are as far off as your history; Nero was in fact a hero when Rome was partially destroyed by fire, he was not in Rome when the fie started but hurried back, took part personally in rescue operations, opened his palace to the homeless and distributed food.

But he did make political capital out of the disaster by blaming the Christians.

I, as I'm sure do many others recall quite vividly how the lefties used to blame Joh for everything from weather to feeling queer. Everything was his fault. Now they're blaming Abbott. Some things will never change. What happened to the billions upon billions we've spent on education since the big Goaf ? Is utter stupidity all that australian education can come up with ? Perhaps we should let the boat people in just to get some new blood with the faint hope of a couple of intelligent genes making their way into our society.

It must be dreadful to realise you have been sold a pup, backed the wrong horse, been totally conned, & arguing a faulty argument for some years. It must be hard to not only realise, but actually admit you've been a fool.

That is probably why those who have got it wrong grasp at any straw, leap at any possible chance that they may not be wrong. They progressively become more rabid in the rubbish they will use in an attempt to avoid making that final admission.

The Greens are the worst. Not only can't they admit to themselves they are wrong, but to do it publicly will cost them votes. Hence we get this disgusting crap from people like Bandt who will do anything to try to perpetuate the fraud, that keeps them on the gravy train.