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Dissolving both houses

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Paul,

That's an impressive list.

Shall we add these to it?

http://www.carersnt.asn.au/abbott-government-dumps-disabilitycare-roll-out

"Abbott Government Dumps Disabilitycare Roll Out

The future of DisabilityCare Australia for thousands of people has been thrown into doubt with the Abbott Government walking away from Federal Labor’s plans for the full roll out of the scheme.

During the election campaign Federal Labor announced its priorities for the next roll out of the national disability insurance scheme from July 2016.

The Assistant Minister for Social Services, Mitch Fifield, has confirmed he has dumped those plans and has no idea about where DisabilityCare will be rolled out next:"

Or perhaps this:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/-/business/19408705/libs-to-clear-23b-hecs-debt/

"The university education debt of millions of Australians could be sold off under a proposal to be examined by Prime Minister Tony Abbott's inquiry into the state of the nation's finances.

In a move that could boost the Budget bottom line, up to $23 billion of outstanding Higher Education Contribution Scheme debt would be effectively privatised under a plan that has already won support in some financial circles."

"One proposal that has backing in the financial sector is to convert the $22.6 billion in HECS debt held by 1.6 million Australians into a financial product. In a process called securitisation, the responsibility for HECS debts would be bought by the private sector and then sold to investors."

Oh goody....wasn't packaging debt and treating it like a financial product the initial impetus for the GFC?
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 11:24:49 AM
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Actually it is a pity the strange lottery that was the senate preference deals in this last election, turned out so favorable to the coalition.

I think the coming senate looks pretty good for giving the ratbag element a black eye. With this elections demonstration of just how unpredictable the result of another senate election could be, Tony may hold his horses.

This is a pity, as after the three ring circus the Labor leadership proved to be, they would be likely to lose a few more senate seats, & the Greens, no longer flavor of the month, would be unlikely to pick up any.

However no one could predict where the other seats would go, hell Palmer could even pick up more.

Hopefully Labor, who must know climate change is a crock of the smelly stuff will come to it's senses, blame it all on their last 2 ratbag leaders, & vote sensibly to rescind the carbon tax.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 11:45:54 AM
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Paul 1405 this is no taunt but a totally and truly held thought.
Runner is the type of Christian who first placed doubts about God in my then committed mind.
I bet he has driven many away from God.
This issue is complex.
Lets be honest both sides want such an election.
But when would it work for the only man who can call one.
3 months and two attempts to pass a bill are needed.
Then Abbott will be able to call one.
Consider the refreshing truth in another post, he may be on a hiding to nothing.
Still unsure if he went in January or February what would become of newly elected Senators?
So if Abbott is looking for one he can pile on the bills he needs then wait.
July next year he gets the new senate, and may get his bills past them.
No need then exists for such an election.
But, clearly 80% of Australians would want one, to return the Senate to mainstream party,s.
Abbott has bright blokes advising him, Rupert Murdock for one bright but evil too.
He could aim at a third year in office DD election,demanding Senate electoral changes in a referendum as part of that election.
That could work.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 2:53:23 PM
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, Runner is the type of Christian who first placed doubts about God in my then committed mind.

sorry Belly you only have yourself to blame for denying the obvious. You seem to remain rusted on to the unions despite the charlotens their. As usual you apply no logic.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 3:15:02 PM
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Talking about logic?

Here's something out of Mr Abbott's mouth:

"...the last thing a Prime Minister does is give
instructions to the Senate,
they do things their own way and I don't think
anything about the Senate is going to change
any time soon."

So what's all this talk about a DD?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 5:56:00 PM
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Folks,
There will be a double dissolution only if Abbott doesn't get his own way in the Parliament.
He believes that given the numbers he has the right to govern in whatever way suits his policies. I happen to agree.
The LNP is the dominant force in Australian politics at the moment, most local governments, most state parliament and in the federal sphere.
They will use their power of numbers to get action wherever and whenever they feel the need.
Look at Queensland at the moment. They have stripped the judges and magistrates of the power to deal with serial sex offenders. The civil libertarians hate it but the people love it. They are going to0 allow more casinos for tourist development. They have set up the platform for the ridding the state of "Bikies" and their criminal activities. They are going top allow uranium mining and much more coal and gas mining. They have stripped anonymity from juvenile criminals and allowed naming and shaming of offenders. There are many areas of restrictive legislation that they are going to throw out the door so that people who want to work and earn a living can.
Social welfare will be scaled back so that only those who need it get it and unemployment benefits will only be available to those who really are seeking to work.
Watch the Abbott space for more developments.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 6:30:15 PM
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