Well Pericles, I also almost washed out my keyboard with tears of laughter when reading your 'coffee description'....

I have to confess, I am not a good speller at times.

C.J. got an earful because he failed to recognize the seriousness of the article itself, irrespective of the religious inclinations of those who offered Steel Axes. i.e. he missed the point.

You continue to neglect the question mark in my 'carried out by a Muslim'? The answer apparently is no, but does that make any difference to the general perception of Islamic cruelty and radicalism in the world today? If I'd done the same thing about the sniper who turned out to be Muslim, would you have criticized me?

Lets be under no illusions here, I don't need to find anecdotal instances of individual muslims doing 'bad things' to justify my argument against Islam the religion, -the Quran and Hadith are adequate.

Bugsy, you speak with such overflowing confidence about secularism and the erosion of foundations of Christianity/Religion. You even (brave man) speak about secularism being "sound". Well.. I've lectured Pericles (Hi P) about this ad nauseum and it appears I need to revisit the barren meaningless wasteland or secular paganism again for your sake. Keep bugging me enough and I will :)
The only 2 possible approaches to life are:

1/ Make_it_up_as_you_go. (Nihilism, NAMBLA and Neurosis)
2/ Life has meaning due to a Creator. (Love, Joy, Peace)

If '1' is your choice, then let me introduce you to your prophets Neitzche, Sartre, deSade and others.
If '2' then.. welcome to our Bible Study.

BD,

"If '1' is your choice, then let me introduce you to your prophets Neitzche, Sartre, deSade and others.
If '2' then.. welcome to our Bible Study. "

1/ Rather it's we don't need prophets handing down pronouncements from on high, instead we seek out what has been learned by fellow travellers who can tell us of their experience and learnings.

From them we can glean what is usefull and discard that which is not. The list of fellow travellers is much wider than you suggest and includes those who live by various faiths but who nevertheless have something worth saying. I've found the writings of Robert Fulghum and Adrian Plass worth keeping in mind regardless of their christain slants.

2/ If those attending your bible study are like you then I'd be checking with someone else about their loving creator as I'm fairly confident that I'd not be finding real answers at your bible study.

R0bert

Wow, BOAZ, I never had it explained to me like that before, you are so right. I need to join your bible class. Where is it?

The interpretation of ancient texts, no matter how they are twisted or distorted from their original context in order to support contemporary prejudices - offer no proof of ANYTHING - legally or morally.

Bugsy, its where you would like it.
I'll come to your place if ur in Melbourne :)
We could meet for coffee and a session with the Word if you wish.

If you haven't had 'it' (life) explained like that b4, then you have been living a sheltered life mate.

Why not have a look at some of the works of Francis Schaeffer ?

Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 11 May 2007 9:08:40 AM
"Lets be under no illusions here, I don't need to find anecdotal instances of individual muslims doing 'bad things' to justify my argument against Islam the religion, -the Quran and Hadith are adequate."

And so is the Book of Jacob.