"These are the facts that dispel your slandering of the thousands of law-abiding firearms licensed Aussie citizens,"

"...slandering..."

Yer at it again - twisting and distorting the arguments of others.

Very cheaty.

What a load of cobblers.....

Not my words Poirota nd one assumes the informed sources to be police. Kindly read the linked report before indulging yourself,

<GOLD Coast bikie gangs are actively targeting hot-blooded young Muslim and Eastern European men as they seek to beef up their ranks with aggressive ethnic recruits.

Sources say gangs such as the Bandidos are embracing multiculturalism, signing up Lebanese, Turkish and Balkan members, many from Sydney and Melbourne.

The trend mirrors the early stages of the rise of crime gangs in southern states who recruited from ethnic groups, sources say.
..>

Again, here is the link,

Criminal bikie gangs boost numbers with young Muslim and Eastern European recruits
http://tinyurl.com/OMGs-multicultural

Well if you want to play the race card OTB, then how will bringing more guns into the country and arming the populace, like they do in the US, help with the violence here?

In fact, how has every man and his dog being armed like an army in the US, helped keep down the violence, whether caused by 'blacks' or not?

Are you suggesting very few white people are murdered by guns in the US?
Do you have stats for that?
In any case a murder is a murder, no matter what colour the person is.

Suseonline, "Do you have stats for that?"

You are a classic, aren't you Suseonline? You get to allege whatever wild claims you like and never provide any evidence to support your own views. But you demand that anyone who challenges you has to provide voluminous evidence. However, no matter what the evidence, and lots of it from different sources has been put to you on previous occasions, you constantly find ways to dismiss it and bounce up again later asking for more.

Here again, this time from The American Journal of Medicine,

<Mortality from Homicide among Young Black Men: A New American Tragedy
[published online 17 January 2013]

In 2012, an American tragedy of far greater urgency and public health importance is the alarming rate of homicide among young black men. Interracial homicide, whether the victim or the perpetrator is black, is abhorrent. Nonetheless, from the perspective of the health of the general public, the circumstances in which a young black man is both the victim and the perpetrator cause far more premature deaths.

Homicide is, far and away, the leading cause of death of young black men. In stark contrast, accidents are, far and away, the leading cause of death among young non-black men and women of all races and ethnicities. Black men are 6 times more likely to die as the result of and 7 times more likely to commit murder than their white counterparts. One eighth of the population is black, but one half of all homicide victims are black.>

http://tinyurl.com/me59xsm

Police reports show that these are offenders without licences using illegally obtained illegal guns to commit serious illegal offences. Police reports confirm that gangs and drugs are involved.

Suseonline, "Well if you want to play the race card OTB"

No I am not. Read the article and attack it with your opposing facts if you have them.

OTB, you are missing the point.

If gun laws were tougher and guns weren't so readily available in the US, then there would logically be far less gun related crimes amongst ANY group.

If this were not the case, then why are so many Americans so passionate about their 'right to bear arms', and the equally passionate anti-gun campaigners?

I don't care what sites you have found for me to read, I can see what is happening and I don't want it to happen in Australia...and it won't.

Releasing ones bowels?
Interesting one poster here has me in training for that defense mode.
The though than having a gun to defend yourself leaves questions to answer.
Would that now grown woman have best handled her assault by shooting the Preast?
The early release, stalled by good common sense, may not have been needed if one of his victims killed him.
We know the odds say he would have taken the gun,at the point of his gun, and murdered some.
Elderly lady,s grasping desperately and bravely at their purse could drop it and shoot the snatcher, unless it was the gun he snatched.