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The Forum > General Discussion > I think we can trust Tony on the GST.

I think we can trust Tony on the GST.

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SPQR,

Fair enough,...although he did say ""We'll make a difference from day one".

Scott Morrison repeated the line: "We'll make a difference from day one when it comes to illegal boat arrivals to Australia,"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-06/abbott-vows-to-stop-asylum-boats-in-first-term/4736294

The LNP election hasn't made any difference at all...."From day one".

And now they're attempting to pull a swifty by limiting the coverage of which Morrison was so fond of in his almost daily light musical for the press.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 23 September 2013 2:26:33 PM
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Hasbeen,
Go into a Chinese or Asian take away, even in the malls, and try to pay by efpos. (which is as good as cash). See how many knock backs you get.
I, probably like you, paid taxes all the working life, because we had to under threat of imprisonment for tax evasion and we expected that at the end of our working life we would get the old age pension. But then they brought in superannuation and that was going to fix everything.
Now we are told that most won't have enough super to live,an equivalent lifestyle, on. There will be no lump sum payments and it seems there will be death penalties as well. You will get a weekly payment from your super fund managers.
I personally object to any business that takes product for their personal use and does not pay fringe benefits tax, that takes cash and does not either declare it or pay GST on it or pays their lifestyle expenses like the kids preschool fees out of the till.
Yes staff do rob the owner, I have locked a few of them up but for the most owners won't make a official complaint because the evidence trail leads back to their own raids on the till for cash.
The double entry system of bookkeeping went out the door years ago with the separate entity of the business from the owner.
If you can't collect all the GST the increase it to 20%
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 23 September 2013 2:28:07 PM
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I can not agree with Chris Gaff on super.
I took mine twice as the law alowed.
At age 55 I pulled out of my government job, and thought I was to be self employed.
Then for just over ten years worked as a union official, best job of my life.
My supper is helping keep me, and every one should consider it as a true investment.
Not without help a self funded or little known investment firm, be careful.
GST is worth a thought 25% increase to 12.5% is going to help our mounting needs for infrastructure.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 23 September 2013 3:18:51 PM
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As with the other thread, I conclude I am living in a different Australia.

I live in a small country town (1200 people). I even pay my lawn-mower man via direct debit at the bank, on invoice, GST included. In fact it's actually hard to get people to take cash, or a cheque - the local electricity office has closed - now I pay on line (though I could pay EFTPOS at the PO). I also pay the telephone bill on line, since they started charging extra for EFTPOS at the PO.

Last year I travelled through western NSW: Bourke, Brewarrina, Barringun, Cobar, Wilcannia, Broken Hill. Everyone has EFTPOS everywhere.
Posted by Cossomby, Monday, 23 September 2013 6:43:51 PM
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Cossomby
I talking about the Asian and ethnic businesses. They just don't believe in tax let alone GST
Belly'
I was lucky too. I had to sacrifice over 12 months time off in lieu to get my super out in cash.
Three other superintendents I worked left it for another three month before pulling the plug and they left with a pension way below their weekly wage.
Fortunately because of my specialty I get a lot of consultant work on $75.00 ph min otherwise no fishing or 4x4 drives.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 23 September 2013 7:46:27 PM
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All that assessment in just one week Paul1405.

Never mind, you will get your chance to reinstaight your beloved labor in three years at the most.

Problem is, I doubt Tony can make as many stuff ups as labor did, so good luck with that.

As for work choices, I'm assuming you are one those who think wages should only ever go up.

Belly, if TA decides to change the GST he will take it to the electorate.

In order to make any changes, he must first review the tax, i suspect this is why it's on the agenda for review.

Make sense to me.

Personally, as you know I would prefer to see a transaction tax put on the table for serious discussion.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 23 September 2013 8:01:18 PM
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