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Did they do it or not?

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Please read this objectively.
If what is being said here has any foundation of truth then the whole system of Westminster Government is teetering on the brink of disaster.
Could the royal household hate the prospect of a Muslim in the family that much that presumptive executive action be effected by those charged with protecting the throne.
Could there have been a role in the affair for the Church of England which stood to be humiliated if Dodi Al Fayed married into the leading church family.
Even if it isn't true it is the stuff of a dozen new books.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/mp/18948493/sas-assassinated-princess-diana/
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 16 September 2013 4:03:01 PM
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Sorry, no chance.

There is no way all of those intelligent, earnest and dedicated investigators could have missed it or been corrupted. Those investigators would have been the cream of the police forces involved. They can be trusted to run every detail to ground and many times over.

Even years after solving a case the same investigators would never give up watching and thinking in case they missed something. Unsolved cases and motivations nag at them. Theirs is a vocation for the totally dedicated. It takes men and women like that to do the work.

Trust the media to give it oxygen.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 16 September 2013 5:30:52 PM
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Dear Chris,

This is the stuff of conspiracy theories isn't it?
Who really killed JFK?
Who was Jack The Ripper?
Is Elvis still alive?
And the list goes on.

And, you're right this is the stuff of pulp fiction.
Which some non-entity will undoubtedly try to profit from.

Let the Princess Rest In Peace.
Her family members deserve that.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 September 2013 6:11:43 PM
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My dear onthebeach

"earnest and dedicated investigators""the cream of the police forces""They can be trusted""Theirs is a vocation for the totally dedicated"

Spoken like a true ultra right wing conservative. I love it.

I don't know if he did it or he didn't and I really don't think whatever happened will have any bearing on life as we know it, but in respect of your statements above I draw your attention to the Royal Commission in to abused children.
Just watch the crap hit the fan involving "earnest and dedicated investigators""the cream of the police forces""They can be trusted""Theirs is a vocation for the totally dedicated" who closed their eyes to what was happening or worse were involved in it.

Sir there is no such animal as you describe.
I spent years working under corrupt premiers and police commissioner and senior police who were all considered (on the day) to be "earnest and dedicated investigators""the cream of the police forces""They can be trusted""Theirs is a vocation for the totally dedicated"

I worked with such legends as ray Kelly, Kelly-Wells, Fagan, Gaskill and Roger Rogerson all by standards of the day "earnest and dedicated investigators""the cream of the police forces""They can be trusted""Theirs is a vocation for the totally dedicated"

We put criminals behind bars where they needed to be for the protection of society. I wouldn't say for one minute that all the evidence was kosher in fact there were many time we created it to fit the crime and crim concerned but we knew he was guilty and so did he.

So if anyone believes that Scotland Yard or MI5 MI6 or any other of those sort of agencies are 100% honest apart from their avowed earnest dedication, their cream of the crop status,they're trustworthiness and their loyalty they should wake up to reality.

Like I say I don't know what happened but it is interesting from a spectator point of view.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 16 September 2013 7:54:06 PM
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chrisgaff1000,

If you don't believe that the very best investigators were put on this case so be it I guess.

By now many would have seen the TV report and if they listened at all they would be aware of the qualifications and limitations expressed prior to and during the report. If you value that above the skilled investigators paid by the British and French governments so be it I guess. But you would have to admit that the quality control was somewhat lacking in the 'investigations' of the media's 'expert on conspiracy theories affecting Diana's death'.

Up to you what you believe.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 16 September 2013 8:14:09 PM
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onthebeach,
I am sorry if I confuse you. I have not said they were not the best investigators all I have said is that if you trust officialdom then good luck to you.
As far as believing them is concerned did you believe our politicians when they said there would be no GST or any one of dozens of lies that have spewed forth from their corrupt lips.
Belief flows from trust and if you don't trust then you don't believe.
Didn't we go to war in Iraq because we believed based on trust.
I have worked with some of the "Best" investigators in this country and believe you me the results we got were what was considered best for the public perception at the time.
Even now some of those investigators are on the verge of revisiting their convenient findings.
As far as lady Di is concerned the particular angle of a simple blinding light at an unsuspecting moment combined with a drunken driver and high speed supported by motive is plausible.
Who knows if that angle was investigated? have you ever seen any of the findings published? I haven't. Even the coroners reports have been sealed other than for the verdict.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 16 September 2013 9:34:46 PM
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Seems to be a bit far fetched to try an assination like that.
If they wanted to get rid of Dodi they would not have placed Diana at risk also.

There would be only a small chance that he would have been killed as
he could survive any crash IF a crash happened.
It required that the car would have to mount the curb to hit the pillars.

The driver could just slam on the brakes.
It is hard to believe that any professional group would try a stunt
like that as the chances of it failing would be very high.

Thats why I think it must be nonsense.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 11:11:01 AM
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Utter nonsense.

The real culprit, and then only by omission, is the fool, in whatever French department that looks after road safety, who decided not to have crash rails in the tunnel.

It was an accident waiting to happen and it could have been anyone.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 5:00:31 PM
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has anyone checked Tony Abbotts whereabouts on that night?
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 5:13:17 PM
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Sorry I posted in the wrong link and it was a bit tongue in cheek cheeky.
But the thought amazed me that a seeming level headed poster could even think it.
Di did have 3 lovers at least while still wed to Charlie, who had his bit on the side.
However blood lines not those made by weddings rule who rules England.
With Charlie and the two kids in line any thought, even mass murder would put a Muslim, by law head of the Church of England! on the throne is quite a grin.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 5:58:50 PM
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This video reveals everything you need to know about Princess Diana's death. I hope you all take the time to watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4meFC1ee7Q

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 6:39:03 PM
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chrisgaff1000 asked 16 September 2013 4:03:01 PM:

> Could the royal household hate the prospect of a Muslim in the family that much ...

No.

>Could there have been a role in the affair for the Church of England ...

No.

>Even if it isn't true it is the stuff of a dozen new books. ..

Yes, no doubt there will be further conspiracy theory books surrounding the death of Princess Dianna. But these will be more works of fiction, than fact. No doubt there are people like the fictional character portrayed by Mel Gibson in the 1997 movie "Conspiracy Theory" who have a need to believe such implausible nonsense, but most of us have more productive things to do with our time.
Posted by tomw, Monday, 23 September 2013 6:22:41 PM
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tomw
Royal households have notoriously for hundreds of years chopped peoples heads off and murdered at will. Remember the Ancien Régime.Why not now?
The Church of England hides its pedophiles and was borne out of lust and murder. Why not now?
The waters still remain murky
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 23 September 2013 7:55:27 PM
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