Banjo,
You tell whoppers.

>>All illegal entrants that arrive by commercial flights are sent back to place of embarkation within 72 hours.<<

Bullsh!t. The most recent figures I can find show that there are 20,000 illegal immigrants in this country who have been here for more than a decade. A decade equates to some 87,660 hours. 87,660 is greater than 72. In fact the figures I looked didn't include illegal immigrants who overstayed their visa by less than a fortnight (336 hrs.). 336 is also greater than 72. You are full of crap.

>>Don't you know there were 50,000 illegals arrive by sea in the last 6 years.<<

How many are still here? I don't actually have numbers for how many arrived by plane - just the ones that are still here, putting excessive strain on infrastructure, not paying their fair share of taxes, not adopting Australian citizenship and integrating themselves with our culture.

There are about 60,000 of them. About 10,000 more than your 'scary' number of maritime arrivals. And that 60,000 is only the fraction of that hasn't been deported yet, so the raw figures for illegal plane arrivals (the ones who have been deported and the ones who haven't) must dwarf the figures for boat arrivals.

Cheers,

Tony

Tony Lavis,
Are these overstayers from the past several years from the Middle East ? Or are they from the USA, Europe or Asia ? I'm asking this because it makes a huge difference if the overstayers are competent people who found meaningful/gainful employment rather than be a burden to us for the next 3 decades with the option of multiplying their numbers.
I would like to have it explained how 60,000 could actually survive here without a job so they must be of use to some employers which of course is beneficial to our economy rather then a drain like those who don't want to integrate.

Tony, the fly ins feed themselves house themselves, do pay tax if they have a proper job, but get no welfare or free medical or hospital care. They cost the taxpayer nothing, & do quite a bit of work that no one else wants to do.

Most boat people are still getting everything as a handout years after they have gate crashed our country. They are nothing but a high cost future problem.

I know which are better value, & they don't have wet feet.

Tony,
Do some homework before shooting your mouth off.

An Illegal entrant is one who arrives without a proper valid visa. There are very few of these because the airlines are responsible for their return. They are detained and put on the first available flight back to where they embarked, within 72 hours according to the DIAC.

There are some people who arrive with valid visas and then apply for asylum while here. Of these only about 30% are successful and are free to go about their business while being assessed. These have arrived legally, please note the difference. The unsuccessful are told they must leave on expiration of their visa.

There is another group of 'overstayers' who are mainly tourists who simply have decided to see/do more whilst here. They have arrived legally, with valid visas. Their overstay is short term, they then leave. This constitutes the bulk of people overstaying their visa and they continue to spend their money and add to the economy while here. DIAC does not consider this group to be a problem.

Then there are other long term overstayers and illegal immigrants. This group also arrived legally but flout our laws by staying and working here. To exist in our society they have to obtain false tax file numbers and medicare cards, etc. From time to time, police and immigration officials catch up with these people and they are usually deported. No doubt even you have read about raids on factories, farms, brothels, building sites and other places. These people are also vulnerable to extortion by unscrupulous employers and landlords.

Maybe more could be done to capture more illegal immigrants.

However there you have it. This info is available on the DIAC website.

You would do well to look it up. But in a nutshell, very few illegal entrants arrive by air. You are not the first to be hoodwinked by the illegals advocates, like the greens.

>>Are these overstayers from the past several years from the Middle East ? Or are they from the USA, Europe or Asia ?<<

I won't be responding to your racist crap other than to say that I've recommended your comment for deletion. What is wrong with you?

>>I would like to have it explained how 60,000 could actually survive here without a job<<

They couldn't, but I didn't say they did

>>they must be of use to some employers which of course is beneficial to our economy<<

Yeah, I guess... if you consider them taking the jobs of willing and able Australian citizens when unemployment hovers around 6%, burdening our infrastructure and dodging their tax responsibilities like the love-child of Kerry Packer and Paul Hogan, then yes, they are beneficial to the economy. But only in the sense of 'beneficial' meaning 'detrimental'.

>>Tony, the fly ins feed themselves house themselves<<

No argument from me there.

>>do pay tax if they have a proper job<<

IF they have a PROPER job.

>>but get no welfare or free medical or hospital care.<<

Can't argue with that either.

>>They cost the taxpayer nothing<<

Not so sure about that.

>>do quite a bit of work that no one else wants to do<<

Really? That NO one else wants to do? Have you asked everyone? I bet there's some poor bugger out there who's just lost his job and hasn't any prospects who'd love to do that job... some poor bugger that grew here not flew here.

>>Most boat people are still getting everything as a handout years after they have gate crashed our country.<<

If they're taken in as refugees they become full Australian citizens... no more right to handouts than Jim from down the road. If they are living off the taxpayers largesse as some Aboriginal communities and most bogan communities do then they need a good kick up the arse. But I haven't seen anything to suggest this is the case beyond your proclamations and you're not exactly a credible source.

Cheers,

Tony

Tony says: <<I won't be responding to your racist crap...>>

Then later (in the same post) he adds:

<<If they're taken in as refugees they become full Australian citizens... no more right to handouts than ...BOGAN COMMUNITIES do...>>

Typical!

And Tony, I think you'll find --if you care to look-- they get a few extracts on account of being "refugees" --like specially reserved university places.