Our media has ignored this very important issue. Obama seems determined to attack Syria and Russia/China have sworn to defend Syria.

Ray McGovern an ex-senior CIA analyst has warned about a possible false flag event ie an attack on a US ship that is blamed on Syria.

It is now documented that the Gulf of Tonkin attack on a US ship that was used to send troops to Vietnam, did not happen.

Tony Abbott is also against an attack calling Syria a conflict of two evils.

This Thursday from 6:00- 8:00 pm there will be an anti-war rally outside Sydney Town Hall.

just the location..
http://interoccupy.net/blog/map-of-nowarwithsyria-protests/

tells me..its a distraction
[it should be held at tony;s place]
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/09/syria-nerve-gas-points-to-obama-backed-jihadists-as-wh-chief-of-staff-admits-they-dont-have-evidence.html
http://rt.com/news/worldwide-protests-syria-strike-564/
never the less.. nukes is on
israel..needs to..*see the pillar..of cloud
http://benswann.com/lindsey-graham-to-charleston-support-war-in-syria-or-be-nuked/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl

pi-liar..supporting the mushroom cloud..before they realize their messiah..all-ready came..[and they knew him not]..and loved neighbors....not,

..cause the peacemaker..wouldn't need to kill..
to bring on..shalom..[peace]
http://www.redressonline.com/2013/09/disarm-israel-of-nuclear-weapons-an-israeli-breaks-a-taboo/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100234713/barack-obamas-delusions-of-grandeur-compares-syria-intervention-to-fighting-world-war-two/?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=bufferbc330&utm_medium=twitter

no sir
just..neuremberg defence

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzwri_sir-no-sir-gi-opposition-to-vietnam_news

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/66974/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0

Arjay, there are two separate events commonly referred to as "The Gulf of Tonkin incident". The first was 2 August 1964, with the USS Maddox and North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats. This is generally accepted to have occurred. The second was 4 August 1964 and is now thought to have been due to a false radar image, not involving NVN ships. You can read about it in the Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

Your suggestion of the risk of a nuclear war triggered by an attack on a US ship blamed on Syria seems unlikely. The USA has in the past responded to such attacks with conventional force. Even the loss of a major ship is unlikely to provoke a nuclear response, as the USA has ships in the region equipped with approximately 200 Tomahawk cruise missiles, which would be a sufficient conventional response: http://rt.com/news/naval-forces-syria-strike-514/

I'm not sure how to break this to you, Arjay, but your posts are becoming very predictable.

1. Announce that nuclear war is imminent.

2. State that it will be initiated by the united States, through use of a "false flag" operation.

3. Support neither assertion with evidence that would stand even the most cursory examination.

This is not a complaint, believe me. Your flights of fancy are a constant joy, in particular your unswerving belief that the US is the repository of all evil.

I would hate to be around when you eventually realize that none of your predictions is ever likely to come to pass. I suspect you will be supremely grumpy for weeks.

extracted/from
Pope/Francis..writes letter..to President/Putin
of Russia..ahead of G20 summit
http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-francis-writes-letter-to-president-putin-of-r

..The world economy..will only develop..if it allows..*a dignified way of life,..for all human beings,..*

*..from the eldest..to the unborn child,
not just..for citizens..of the G20 member/states...but for every inhabitant..of the earth,..even those..in extreme social situations or..in the remotest places.

From this standpoint,
it is clear..that,..for the world’s peoples,
*armed conflicts..are always*..a deliberate negation of international harmony,..

and..wars..create profound..longlasting/generational divisions..
and deep wounds..which require many centuries..to heal.

Wars..are a concrete refusal..to pursue
the great balancing..of economic..and social goals..
that the international community..has set itself,..as seen,..for example,..in the Millennium/Development Goals...human/rights declaration's.

Unfortunately,..the many armed/conflicts
which continue.to afflict the world today
present us daily..with dramatic images of misery,..injury..hunger, illness..destruction and death...

*Without peace,
there can be no form..of lasting economic development.

Violence..never begets peace,..
the necessary condition for humane development...
The meeting of the Heads of States...and Government of the twenty most powerful economies...with *two-thirds of the world’s population and ninety per cent..of global GDP,..does not have*..international permissions...for person security protections..nor aim*...*as its principal purpose.

Nevertheless,..the meeting..will surely not forget
the situation..in the Middle East..and particularly in Syria.

It is regrettable that,..from the very beginning of the conflict in Syria,..MANY/one-sided interests..have prevailed..and in fact hindered..the search for a solution..that would have avoided the senseless massacre now unfolding.

*The leaders of the G20..cannot remain indifferent..to the dramatic situation of the beloved Syrian people..which has lasted far too long,..and even risks bringing*..yet greater suffering to a region bitterly tested..by strife and ever more needful of peace.

thus this isay..To the leaders present,
to each and every one,..I make a heartfelt appeal
for them to help find ways..*to overcome..the conflicting positions and..to lay aside..*the futile pursuit of a military solution.

Rather,..let there be a renewed commitment
to seek,..with humble courage and compasionate determination,
a peaceful solution,,*through dialogue..and negotiation..with ALL..of the parties,..*unanimously supported by the international community.

Moreover,..all governments..*have the moral duty
to do everything possible..to ensure humanitarian assistance ..to those suffering..*because of the conflict,..both within and beyond the country’s borders...>>

continued at link

Lindsey Graham to Charleston: support war in Syria or be nuked!
http://benswann.com/lindsey-graham-to-charleston-support-war-in-syria-or-be-nuked/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl

War Hawks are getting so desperate that they are using fear tactics in order to motivate constituents to support the war in Syria. Syria and Iran maybe allies, but Sen. Lindsay Graham’s analysis of their connection is simplistic and misguided.

According to the senator, if the US does not intervene in Syria, Iran will not take the US seriously and will have a nuclear weapon by the end of 2014.

If Iran gets nuclear weapons, such weapons will end up in the hands of terrorists. He ended his analysis by describing the fear-inducing-if-unrealistic situation of a nuclear bomb dropping on Charleston Harbor.

In 2003,President Bush..lied when he claimed
http://benswann.com/lindsey-graham-to-charleston-support-war-in-syria-or-be-nuked/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl

Saddam/Hussein..*possessed nuclear weapons to trick America into war against Iraq...None were ever found,..later exposed as forgeries by former Ambassador Joseph Wilson,..which led to the Valerie Plame scandal.

In short,..the United States[..colonization inc]
has a long history..of lying
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-war-on-syria-is-a-hoax/66965/
to trick the American people..purses..into wars.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/66974/
Isn't it common sense..that the story about Assad..is just more of the same?
http://investmentwatchblog.com/conan-obrien-exposes-the-mainstream-media-lies-propaganda/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/09/syria-nerve-gas-points-to-obama-backed-jihadists-as-wh-chief-of-staff-admits-they-dont-have-evidence.html

http://investmentwatchblog.com/my-2-cents-on-syria-obama-and-the-irony/

<Tony Abbott is also against an attack calling Syria a conflict of two evils>

He is right.

“There Will Be A Nuclear Exchange
If This Happens”: Why Obama Will Launch World War 3
http://investmentwatchblog.com/there-will-be-a-nuclear-exchange-if-this-happens-why-obama-will-launch-world-war-3/

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/08/british-foreign-secretary-hague-urges-strong-response-to-chemical-weapons-use-in-syria/

John Kerry..is due to arrive in London..on Sunday for talks with Hague as part of a swing through European capitals..to drum up support for action on Syria.

Memo to the UK's
Foreign Secretary Hague:..there is utterly no credible evidence..that the Al-Assad military used..poison gas against their own people,..zero,..zip,..none!!

it..doesn't pass the "smell test";

And are you aware..that various methods of testing
for the use of sarin gas..can create a false positive?!?

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/fake-media-reports-on-the-use-of-sarin-evidence-is-inconclusive/64877/

Fake Media Reports on the Use of Sarin....claim that U.S. Secretary of State Kerry//said that there is proof..of sarin gas used in the recent Syrian incident.

These claims..are false.
All these headline..claims are false.

Kerry said:..“We have learned...*through samples..that have now been teste..hair samples and blood samples..have tested positive for signatures*..of sarin,” Kerry said..on NBC’s Meet the Press.

It is important..to differentiate
between sarin and mere “signatures of sarin”.
Sarin, a fluid..at room temperature, evaporates and decomposes rapidly.

A few hours ..after sarin exposure ..it is nearly impossible to find pure sarin samples..on or within a human body...Sarin molecules react with other molecules..and fall apart.

the same decomposition/products..can also occur from exposition to other chemical substances.. Especially exposure to typical farming insecticides,chemically organophosphates,..is likely to create the same decomposition products..that sarin exposure does.

..deduced by examining post-mortem blood samples
for presence..or lack of acetylcholinesterase,..up to a week after death.

A person who has died from Sarin exposure..would have little or no acetylcholinesterase present. …

One of the decomposition products of Sarin in the human body is methylphosphonic acid.. A study shows that this substance is detectable in urine..by use of mass spectrometry.

This particular substance is not specific to Sarin. …

Is it possible other substances..could produce false positives for sarin? Yes. Generally,..the more sophisticated and expensive the detection technique,..the less scope for false positives.

There is no chain..of evidence here;
and there is no repor.. of what public or private institution actually did..the tests which..the US government states..proved positive for sarin.

its all just
bull*dust

Thanks UOG. It is interesting to note that Gen Martin Dempsey the head of the joints Chiefs of Staff has advised against an attack on Syria. Obama has resisted an attack until now.

The USA has 13 war ships + 2 subs and Russia has 6 war ships and undisclosed number of subs. China has sent one warship.

Our awareness of the banking military industrial complex who promote these wars of imperialism has grown rapidly and they need a big war not to escape Russia or China, but we the people whom they feed off. We can end this oppression without a shot being fired.

Arjay,

Perhaps a quick look into the Iran-Syria gas Pipeline deal - http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines - will add yet another dimension to the politics of the region.

Pumping that evil Iranian gas into Europe is not a popular option for many interested parties at the moment.

There's plenty of info available and not all of it from shadowy conspiratorial sites.

Thanks Wobbles. Syria has offered to give all its chemical weapons to an international care taker. Watch the USA ignore the offer.

Israel is the real worry since they could attempt and attack like the US Liberty in 1966,when they attacked a US unarmed intelligence ship and tried to blame it on Egypt.

http://real-agenda.com/ Leaked Pentagon ifo says the US will attack Syria in 72 hrs. Let's hope not.

Arjay,

Neither Russia nor China have sworn to defend Syria. Their objection is to US attacks. Neither have the hardware to fend off the US 5th fleet, and neither would be stupid enough to go nuclear to defend a brutal dictator.

If the US punishes Syria, Russia and China will finger wag from the sidelines and get ready to make a profit from the sales of more weapons to Assad.

Did you know that the United Nations has had evidence that the Syrian rebels have been using sarin gas against Syrian government forces since May?
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/the-un-has-had-evidence-that-syrian.html

–we realize it is a little early, but it seems that this is Obama’s way of saying there will be no strikes on Syria. The agreement–brokered by Putin–to have Assad turn over his chemical weapons to international handlers in return for the Americans backing away from war has worked.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-strike-absolutely-hold-syria-abandons-chemical-weapons/story?id=20205109

Obama got his graceful exit.
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/obama-has-basically-just-called-off-the-war-with-syria/

ON THE OTHER HAND HOWEVER, now is the time to worry.
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/09/09/227373-aipac-running-into-buzz-saw-of-public-disgust-for-wars-webster-tarpley/

Benjamin Netanyahu is absolutely out of his mind with rage right
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Pro-Israel-groups-in-United-States-scramble-to-save-Syria-strike-resolution-325681

now, given the fact that his little war with Syria that he hoped would become a bigger war with Iran

http://investmentwatchblog.com/ww3-wont-be-stopped-its-definitely-on/

is not going to happen.
http://www.hangthebankers.com/exposed-planned-false-flag-attack-on-israel-to-blame-syria/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/ex-cia-analyst-new-false-flag-attack-on-us-destroyer-will-start-syria-war-with-us-video/

And so on this, 2 days before the 9/11 anniversary, it is not the time to be breathing easy just yet

http://investmentwatchblog.com/global-currency-reset-in-process-u-s-ship-of-state-is-sinking-the-rest-of-the-world-is-walking-away-from-u-s-treasuries-dollar-and-wants-to-use-a-new-currency-to-escape-the-coming-global-inflat/

OUG.Shallow Minister will believe anything the corporate media or his Govt feeds him. There is little point in arguing.

have been watching..media
the no's..are saying it may take 2 years[meanwhile the killing goes on]

but 2 years is bullshhhh it
there are 10 [or maybe 20]..sites where the gas is held
over night..usa could enforce a no fly zone..patrolled by drones
AROUND each site..

the locals themselves..build the plants
getting paid...to watch..live web cams..and dispose of the junk..under eye of un/unarmed peace keepers

refugee safe areas..that
allow people to get home..and begin cleaning up

plus a gun buy/back scheme

all usa/un..needs do
is keep the road's and communications going
plus of course not..destroy infrastructure.. nor life

decentralize..autonomous control
work locally..zone by zone..anyhow

the redflag/blackflag war on error goes on

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ARTICLE5/
my computer is slowing down
good to know the good guys is watchinng

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/his-plan-was-never-good-obamacant-tell-the-difference-between-showbiz-and-strategy/68123/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-us-military-industrial-media-complex-controls-president-obama/68122/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/us-government-screw-up-or-a-distraction-they-understand-that-the-economy-is-going-to-collapse-and-they-cannot-be-blamed-when-it-happens/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/gangs-bullies-govt-govt-controlled-medias-great-con-game-on-americans-people-resisting-corrupt-evil-govt-hits-all-time-high/

http://www.examiner.com/article/hey-1-corporate-media-truth-now-or-be-war-criminals-forever

http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-download-before-takedown-syrian-parliament-letter-to-the-us-house-of-representatives-censored-by-the-us-press/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/obamas-september-10-address-slippery-slope-president-potential-strike-on-syria-on-hold-pending-a-diplomatic-effort/68121/

lets face it..if obama throws one blow..he begun *it

we KNOW,,he could go to war for 2 months
why ask..congress unless its expected..to/be the final war
[at least..by by zionists/xtian death cults]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/node

We've stopped them for the present. They won't give up easily.

Remember how Nth Korea was the salient evil to be conquered a while back but they suddenly went cold on that idea and concentrated on Syria.

"We've stopped them for the present."

That is seriously impressive, Arjay... since

"This Thursday from 6:00- 8:00 pm there will be an anti-war rally outside Sydney Town Hall." hasn't happened yet.

funny how big organized rallies
turned into a less than newsworthy a true no show
and how they pay that will reveal..much..the issue isnt gone

too clever by half eh?

have you read davids latest
the peace maker now?..wow..
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15466

even..lego has publicly corrected him
when they both serve the same master
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15466&page=0

anyhow previous post dissipated..before posting
this into lego's ..comment its re-election ploy..[oh boy]

lame-duck..2 de term
thus no re-election
http://investmentwatchblog.com/his-plan-was-never-good-obamacant-tell-the-difference-between-showbiz-and-strategy/

but..your correct lego
but..david must follow..the same masters..as you
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/former-tsa-employee-accused-of-making-terrorist-threats-on-eve-of-911-anniversary/68398/
you..know you*..cant say no..*to them..neither can david..nor cia
http://rt.com/news/nsa-shares-data-israel-723/
experts..at media/govt maniplution
false/persons red flags black/flags
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/911-twelve-years-of-war-lies-and-deception/68422/

murder
collusion...manipluation
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-real-agenda-in-attacking-syria-protect-the-dollar-next-china-launching-gold-backed-global-currency/
oppressive control...mayhem/treason
http://beyondprophecy.blogspot.ca/p/hot-news.html

fanaticism,
cruelty and destruction
and gangrenes society..armogeddon.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-on-smartphones-including-the-blackberry-a-921161.html
The problem
is it is so deep-rooted
http://xrepublic.tv/node/4275

john Kerry admits WTC7
brought down by controlled demolition.
http://xrepublic.tv/node/4567

9/11 Hijackers Passports were issued by the CIA - US Consulate Whistleblower
http://xrepublic.tv/node/240

Syria intervention plan fueled by oil interests, not chemical weapon concern
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines

Whatever the case, few recall that US agitation against Syria began long before recent atrocities, in the context of wider operations targeting Iranian influence across the Middle East.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b35_1378474656
»

CIA documents reveal Israeli stockpile of chemical weapons
http://bit.ly/17qA0B8

The newly-discovered document of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency revealed Monday by Foreign Policy magazine shows that the U.S. agency had decisive evidence dating back to at least the 1980s that Israel had a stockpile of chemical and biological weapons.

No he didn't, one under god.

>>john Kerry admits WTC7
brought down by controlled demolition.<<

On that video, he very clearly said that he knew nothing about it, that this was the first time he'd been asked these questions, and that he would go away and find out about it.

Strewth, you guys clutch at the thinnest of straws.

Given recent developments, is this going ahead Arjay?

"This Thursday from 6:00- 8:00 pm there will be an anti-war rally outside Sydney Town Hall."

I might just pop along. Should be fun.

Pericles
listen carefully
from @..2,40..

please feel free to/offer
in writing..what exactly...you think..
[hear]..him saying..

for around 30 seconds
but the first few mumbles word inreply is key

how do you feel..about the too clever by half
5 BILLION..windfall..[insured via an israeli..insurer]
underwritten..by many sukkers..

WHO HAD TO PAYOUT..
when the israelie..primary insurer
ok/d the claim/payoff

not just one claim..but two

also..refute the thermite guy
kerry avoided talking about?

look into it
my but...

the trail stops..
the second they hear.. Israeli..!

the buildings are proceeds of ,
massive colluded treasonous crime-lords

follow the funny money

how about the missing gold..held in the towers
and ALL the proof of enrons crimes

both gone
but gold dont burn
[nor disolve in water..
like they claim sandy did..to another great wack of gold]

but thats another crime

anyhow
you refuted..ONE link
any comment on the others

i know you to be fair
but i heard it..you..maybe hoped..not to hear?

when good men..do nothing?
nothing good gets won.

Pericles ,yes the protest did happen and I was there. Syria, Iran and Nth Korea are just a few countries left not controlled by a Rothschild Bank.

Vladmir Putin is reducing the Rothschild Banking power in Russia as we type. He is also nationalising Russian energy much to the distain of our war mongering,vile,criminal,banking military,industrial complex.

$$$$
http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-confirmed-theyre-looting-govt-pension-plans-five-siren-alert/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/they-denied-that-we-were-in-a-depression-in-1933-and-they-are-doing-it-again-in-2013/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/jim-rogers-us-economy-is-no-longer-producing-there-are-no-more-farmers-just-wall-street/

JIM ROGERS - When the FED stops PRINTING
FIAT CURRENCY the COLLAPSE will be here. PREPARE NOW
http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:Video:1314611?xg_source=activity

NSA feeds raw intelligence data to Israel
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/nsa-feeds-raw-intelligence-data-to-israel/68863/
A secret memo provided by former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden to the British Guardian newspaper reveals that the US spy agency is funneling raw intelligence data, including information from intercepted communications of US citizens, to Israeli intelligence.

The CIA is Pouring into Syria
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/09/jack-d-douglas/the-cia-and-its-weapons-are-pouring-into-syria/
Now Obama and the CIA are in grave danger of being exposed for their secret shipment of the poison gas, or the financing of it through Saudi Arabia or other war criminals.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/assad-dictates-to-obama-stop-arming-rebels-or-no-deal/article/2535700

They are desperate to appear willing to negotiate peace to hide their secret war, while in some way scuttling the peace talks and getting on with the air attacks on Syria.

Now the US faces defeat in its War Against Syria, so Obama and the CIA have gotten desperate and taken extreme risks of getting exposed to the American people and ignorant allies worldwide for what it is, a terrorist, totalitarian, secret police, global empire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwJnCblsbY0
http://bit.ly/15VYUf4
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/confidence-credibility-and-mind-control/68814/
At the moment the rebels are so openly enraged at the US for not carrying out the air strikes promised long ago that they are hinting that they could tell the whole truth about the gas if the US does not fulfill its promised air strikes and save them

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/10-reasons-why-diplomatic-solution-to.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-12/assad-lays-down-his-conditions-deal-depends-us-stopping-aid-terrorists