Poirot - I would like to remind you of a statement you made "I take official statements on process as evidence."

Therefore if the information provided by onthebeach came from Official sources they must be EVIDENCE and therefor YOU must believe them as true according to your statement.

Shadow Minister - That Dubai situation is worse because to prove she was raped she would, by there law need 4 adult male witnesses. Talk about scales of justice.

Philip,

I wasn't questioning the veracity of his figures.

I was asking whether Australia had an equivalent measurement of what constitutes a "Swedish parent"?....and what he meant by "immigrant" (which, as you would imagine covers a wide range of possibilities)

to prove she was raped she would, by there law need 4 adult male witnesses.
Philip S,
My Pilot mates who work in Dubai tell me that if an Saudi runs into your parked car then it is your fault because if you had not been in their country he could not have driven into your car.
Not a bad Law to adopt here in Australia for our Arab invaders.

SM I am not an Islamist, in fact I am an atheist who believes all religions are bad, but support a pluralistic society. Your comment;
"large portion of these people are young adult males from cultures where the attitudes to women are extremely backward"
Something similar could be applied to say hillbilly Americans or European peasants. Attitudes have a lot to do with education and less to do with culture. Having met many well educated Muslims their attitudes are very much the same as other well educated members of society.
Jayb, we are not short on criminals in society do the names Ivan Milat,Martin Bryant and more recently, Adrian Ernest Bayley ring any alarm bells for you? I could easily make up a list of 100 such names what does it prove?
"Islamist Apologists are defending a sexual predator because he happens to be Muslim." The difference is my 3 have been convicted in a court of law, where as the "Muslim" you have found guilty has been convicted of nothing, other than by the likes of you.
"I am a common sense bigot" so said sonofgloin.
"check on the morality and cultural suitability" Naturally people must comply with the moral and cultural standards of the common sense bigot. When in power these common senses bigots soon apply their standards to the rest of society as well, weeding out the undesirable.

ring any alarm bells for you?
Paul,
1405,
Nobody here is saying that our society is not guilty of having the said criminals. What many say is that they're individuals acting on their individual instincts. The imported variety however does not have individualism as a general rule (of course they have intelligent exceptions) which is bound by a culture of religious fanaticism & not individualism.
I rather have to deal with a few isolated criminals than a whole horde of hate indoctrinated. That is the crucial difference.

Poirot,

You try to deny facts. I have read that Swedish report which comes from the Swedish Criminology institute. Everyone in Sweden has a personal identification number. Thus when a crime is committed it is easy to determine what percentage of crime is due to foreigners.
For the purposes of the report people were classified as either Swedish or non-Swedish. For the criminal to be determined as Swedish they had to be born to two parents who were each born in Sweden. All other were designated as non-Swedish. The results of the report clearly demonstrated much higher rates of crime, especially for violent crime ( in some cases more than 400% higher) than was to be expected. Also it is important to take not that the Swedish institute also corrected the statistics for demographics (such as the fact that asylum seekers tend to be younger on average) and socio-economic status yet the study clearly still demonstrated much higher rates of crime for non-Swedish people. The report also pointed out some nationalities which had still even higher rates of crime. Australia, unfortunately, due to the PC lobby, such as yourself will not collect or publish such numbers.