Jayb,

So you are fine with illegal residents, as long as they don't come on a boat or claim asylum.

Okay......

Belly >
Unauthorised Arrivals are those trying to enter the country without a Visa and/or those breaching their visa conditions, including over stayers.

My statistics come from the Immigration Department; they are not unauthorised statistics and I did not say they were.

sbr108, and how did you obtain these stats from the Immigration Department? would you like to elaborate.
New Zealand is concerned about the large numbers of Kiwi's obtaining "economic asylum" in Australia. John Key has raised the problem with our PM. Half my partners whanau (family) are living in Oz and doing well. It a problem for NZ they are losing their skilled people, mostly to Australia. at the moment its running at over 1,000 a week. i have no problem with it but I can see their point.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/key-to-raise-visa-rules-for-new-zealanders/story-e6frfq80-1226570484092

poirot: So you are fine with illegal residents, as long as they don't come on a boat or claim asylum.

From a simple minded Bigot, thanks poirot. When he arrived from Britain he was am member of the British Commonwealth, as such, did not have to apply for Citizenship. He automatically was. They changed the rules in the 80's I believe. I not sure what year exactly, can someone input a year here.

Oh, poirot, you forgot, above all, Muslim.

Paul1405 - You try to compare 2 different things, the majority of people on boats do not speak English therefore they will be a burden on taxpayers for years or life, because no one can give them a job legally. If they have an accident they just say "I could not read the signs or instructions, or verbally I did not understand The Government will have the employer in court very quickly.

Maybe next time you will be better served by sticking your argument to the context of the original post, rather than diverting to New Zealand people legally here especially since at the moment you are only on page 2.

Yes of course fly-in asylum seekers and visa-overstayers should be clamped right down on as well as onshore asylum seekers.

If Rudd was to look at this holistically, he would do all of this.

I implore all the refugee advocates and stop-the-boatists alike to lobby him to do this and to thus tidy up all aspects of border control rather than just one part of it.

It is quite despicable that there is a constantly large number of illegals in our country who are taking jobs and not paying tax… and who are essentially seeking or getting asylum for many years.

However this number is more or less constant, as the number of arrivals is approximately the same as the number of these people who get caught and ejected or who go home of their own volition.

But the continuous stream of Kiwis is a separate thing, which also needs to be clamped right down on!

BTW Jayb, I am not necessarily saying that all long-time officially illegal residents should be ejected. There is no doubt a very good case for people as per your example to be allowed to stay. But of course it should be formalised and brought in line with the law of the land.