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UNSW branded 'elitist' for setting ATAR benchmark of 80
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Posted by Luciferase, Sunday, 21 July 2013 12:54:20 PM
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Houellebecq, not only was I flabbergasted, I was mortified, nay I was personified, not to mention cheiloproclitic, as well it aroused my lachanophobia. It did in general make me preantepenultimate by the total belacterfication of the whole repretenablity of the total pernastices of the jennaticy of the totaloiternicy of the matter at hand. Do you agree with my salbertation of the procrastination? If you do, you are as silly as I am. LOL.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 21 July 2013 8:15:32 PM
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Paul1405... you make it sound like you're so bound up with your ideas you need to take a prolixitive suppository...
Posted by WmTrevor, Monday, 22 July 2013 8:41:36 AM
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It's a ranking Hasbeen. I think it's like the TER before it, a way of ranking students. They don't let anyone know how they actually calculate it, it's like the recipe for KFC.
I assume this secrecy is so people are not appalled by how the different subjects are scaled, and so students cannot use this information to make choices on which subjects lead to higher ATARs. 'The calculation of the ATAR is a complex process that begins with scaling the raw HSC marks and ends with ranking students among their Year 7 cohort.' http://www.uac.edu.au/undergraduate/faq/atar-calculation.shtml I find it curious that they rank Year 12 HSC students against year 7 students. Apparently it is not compulsory to do Mathematics, but it is compulsory to do English. Weird. Why would they require English? My partner reckons most of the full fee paying students manage to complete courses barely being able to speak English at all. Anyone want a B Arts? ATAR of 50 required. Career opportunities: Examples include positions in administration, public service, management, welfare management, and a pathway to teaching. http://www.uac.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/midyear/ltu/183010.html Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 22 July 2013 9:21:43 AM
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WmTrevor, I took your advice, and for all the good it did me I could have shoved the bloody things up my ass. Gee, those suppository are hard to swallow, I took the jumbo pack of a 100, better to be safe than sorry. maybe next time I'll take them with water. what do ya think?
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 22 July 2013 9:26:36 AM
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"We are concerned they're pre-occupied with an elitist attitude, and we're also worried about budget lines taking priority over student equity and access."
Haha Trev. Now, the NUS wouldn't possibly be pre-occupied with their own budget lines (compulsory fees * no of students) taking priority over the standard of education now would they? Student equity and access. I can see three possible scenarios. 1. Greater access leads to more students failing - waste of money 2. Greater access leads to lowering the standard so the same amount of students pass. 3. 'Elitism' leads to maintaining or increasing the standard while the same amount of students pass. I am flabergasted pelican. I suppose it's easier to lower the bar and call ourselves educated. Imagine if we applied the logic to money. Lets have the government print lots of money and give everyone $100k check, to increase access and equity, so everyone is rich! Paul1405, you sound discombobulated. Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 22 July 2013 10:12:49 AM
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Academic merit is passe and all that is required is money and aspiration. There are too many students doing worthless uni courses designed to meet their low academic abilities who should be in more hands-on TAFE courses and/or the workforce, IMO.