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Carbon tax vs actually doing soething to help the environment

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turtletimtam, any tax on emissions, charged to generators will never be anything other than a permit to pollute.

As for goimg solar, are you suggesting we stop burning coal, or are you suggesting we also stop digging it up.

Now if you say the latter, then where are the replacement jobs going to come from?

Furthermore, the likes of China and India will simply find another seller.

You should also remember that we as a nation only produce about 2% of world emmisioms, in other words, if we totally stops producing carbon, it would hardly be noticed.

All the hair brained schemes in the world may sound great, but there's more to consider than just emmisioms.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 19 July 2013 11:36:50 AM
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Poirot,

First, yes.
Second, yes.
Third, no, not from Tony. What made you think it was?
Posted by spindoc, Friday, 19 July 2013 11:41:10 AM
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spindoc,

Oh sorry, Greg Hunt is not representing Tony...eh?

Well I kinda thought he was, according to articles like this:

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/04/australian-conservatives-going-labor-lite-pandering-to-the-green-vote-or-just-confused/

"Tony Abbott has a plan to try to convince China and the US to sign up for the “global climate change deal.”"

(Interesting to note that if one tries to access the original Business Spectator article, one gets a page not found.)

But I understand, if the LNP don't really know which way to go policy-wise.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 19 July 2013 11:52:02 AM
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As to stopping mining coal, eventually there will be none left so we'll lose those jobs anyway. If we invest heavily in my "solar revolution" idea we will need more workers in solar panel manufacturing and installation. We have to get overseas workers to fill our employment needs already, couldn't the miners who lose their jobs as we faze out coal mining fill some of those positions? Also, I know that world wide Australia is a small polluter, but if we set the example and show that solar power is a viable option by being the first country to "go solar" maybe the other countries will try it too. Someone has to bite the bullet and go first, why not us? If nobody is willing to set the standard we will all suffer in the long run.
Posted by turtletimtam, Saturday, 20 July 2013 4:38:05 PM
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As to stopping mining coal, eventually there will be none left
Turtletimtam,
Same goes for oil. Once that comes to a trickle they won't be able to manufacture your Solar equipment either, which might be a good thing because manufacturing that gear is extremely polluting.
Posted by individual, Monday, 22 July 2013 3:41:28 PM
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carbontax=revenue raising..
but its for the money marketeers,..>>>the money environment.

true action is by REDUCE*..consumption..not the guilt laden buzzwurds

im reminded that the *ice age..was only 2 degree's cooler than now

so lets go for 3 degree cooler eh?:

does solar inputs go per kilowatt?
kill what for watt?

or goes it via money values?
i expect its the money values*
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 9:56:34 AM
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