rechub: there's nothing illegal about suspending aid, even if it is on a Boston for Boston basis, but at the end of the day, action is what is needed, not words, and what better place to tackle the problem than where it starts, Indonesia.

From a Simple Minded Bigot, thanks Poirot: I didn't say that it was illegal to stop the aid?

It looks like Indo is doing something at last. Stopping the buying of Visa's for Iranese when they arrive in Indo. They should di it for all of them though.

Withdrawal from the UNCH Convention is a good idea. Remember it is only a "Convention" not a Law & it has previsions in it for us to withdraw at any time.

Poirot,

Kredit Rudd makes lots of pronouncements every day, and as in 2007 did very little. I am sure the many many meetings and photo ops he attends will promise a reduction by 2030.

"Kredit Rudd"

Shadow, Minister - I'm really disappointed that with your towering intellect and talent for "roolly, roolly clever nicknames" that that's the best you can come up with.

Why, it's not a patch on Juliar or Whine (or even Parrot)

I'd pass your incredibly clever epithets on to Tony and Co - they need all the help they can get.

poirot: Shadow, Minister - I'm really disappointed that with your towering intellect and talent for "roolly, roolly clever nicknames" that that's the best you can come up with.

From one of the Simple Minded Bigots: What in heaven's name is this got to do with stopping the boats poirot. Is this another deflection. Propose your solution to the problem & we'll evaluate it. That's how you debate, not by deflecting the question on trivia.

Jayb,

Mind yer own beeswax.

I was addressing Shadow Minister.

: )

Poirot, one of the libs slogans is, there is no 'I' in team work. In other words, Tony Abbott recognizes that he is just one person, in a very important team, whereas Kevin Rudd does not. He may say differently, but history speaks for itself.

Further evidence (on the carbon tax) is the fact that labor's Dr No (Penny Wong) must have been asleep at the wheel in this debate, either that, or she was not part of the process, a vicim of labor's one man band approach. Because after all, if she was listened to, then how the heck did she get it so wrong, allowing $26 per ton, when the world price is about $6 per Ton.

But, back to the boats, none of you labor lovers can seem to accept the fact that this illegals problem didn't exist prior to the man you refer to as your hero came along with his grand plan.

And to think you lot are just willing to sweep his failures under the carpet.

Unbelievable!