OUG,

Interesting....

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23832-lake-vostok-may-boast-a-thriving-ecosystem.html#.UdzeG2daf9F

Evolutionists cannot EXPLAIN your THEORY of ambiogenesis
nor that..lol..'first cell that 'evolved'..[via natural selection]

i contend-..that evolution is a theory..not a science..
as faulsify-ables..[that if refuted..refute the theory]..needed to claim the evolving thesis..of evolution of genus..*simply dont egsist

what dna [science]sequencing verified it happend
what was the change to what dna strand..of which species

what formed the cell membrane?
what substances formed the membrane?
can science replicate the membrane even today?

or what error/mutation..evolved genus..away from the first life
?
and where the amino acids ,hormones ,telemeres etc originate of the first evolution..what proofs?

yet you dare tell the theory to your kids as science truth
just as you were deceived by your teachers
it is a childish theory that satisfies only children

please grow up

see your faith in the theory
is the same belief [faith]
we have in god

but we try to explain ours [that is the difference]
but this isnt about belief

[explain science fact

im aware of my own ignorance

so how did this first cell..[life]..evolve into the next evolution?

what was this first cells definitive name [or what family/species]

[or whatever you think your faux science..[evolution]
says the ambiogensis definitively happened

ps i know ambiogenisis is denied..to be AN evolution BUT
how did this first cell mutate..into being the first cell?

i know there is clever people here
so please explain..*your theory

if you cant post facts
links are nice [but if you need a link to explain
think why you cant explain it without the link

paraphrase it for me
[to show you know..the facts underpinning YOUR theory..that you put above god][ok i know quite a few believers have fallen for a theory too,..but you guys[and gals] can help explain it as well

you that believe a THEORY to explain it at anytime

what you afraid of
you cant explain it now
so how you going to explain it to god..then

are not all irrationalities equal?
how can one absurdity..be more or less absurd than any other?

surely both have equal absurdity [lol]
until one proves..its theory...via science..with dea-fini-tive'$
faulsifyables

YOU claims the science method
BUT via deception..of being a COMPLETE science
that any other..in lue of fact is belief ..and all belief is just what you believe..if you cant prove it..its not science.

iam ully able to confirm
why i believe what i believe]

i studied genetics[a real science]
proved mendelic inheritors BY BREEDING and testing
but evolution ISNT a science..it is a theory

here is my point
a child asks where do i come from?

the reply is either 'god'
or in time kid you will learn
about the..THEORY [of evolution]
thats not where we came from..yet its called science
cause that stops us thinking about it

one serious response
raised the issue of amoeba
an omnipresent little beast..unchanged from the beginning

in researching your ameba i found only more about
how impossable evolution is

http://www.present-truth.org/3-Nature/Creation/creation-not-evolution-4.htm

here is a quick quote

The common amoeba is found in fresh water ponds,and ranges in size from an invisible microscopic animal to one that reaches a diameter of about half a millimeter,visible to the naked eye as a tiny white speck.

Each amoeba is a little mass of gelatinous protoplasm,containing many granules and droplets.The protoplasm is covered with a delicate cell membrane.

In many ways this strange little creature bears witness to its Creator.(1)The Amoeba is gifted with many Strange Abilities for a Microscopic Animal.

It can crawl;it can breathe(though it has no lungs or gills);
it can distinguish inert particles from the minute plants and animals on which it feeds;

it can thrust out its jelly-like body
at any point to lay hold of its food;

it can digest and absorb its food;

though it has no feet,it crawls by projecting "pseudopods."

Such a strange little creature could not"just happen."One cannot fail to see in these abilities the Hand of the Creator.(2)

The Ameba moves around by means of "Ameboid movement," projecting a "pseudopod"(false foot)from any part of its body.Because of this it changes shape when it moves or engulfs food,

hence its name — "ameba" (derived from a Greek word meaning "change").

The "legs" of an ameba are temporary,and soon flow back into its body,when it stops moving or completes the ingestion of food particles.

This is totally different from the muscular movements of higher animals.

Who designed it?
Moreover,if the amoeba is about to "swallow" an active organism,

Apparently the amoeba can "think" even though it has no brain

so logo's..logic came before the first cell?

thanks for the link poirot

your link mentioned new find..on this link
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23253-mystery-bug-found-in-antarcticas-lake-vostok.html

from that link
[quote]
<<..Bulat has now gone back to the DNA samples.. Comparing their DNA sequences to a database of known contaminants,..he identified short fragments=..lol..of DNA..pir rna..lol]..belonging to 19 different known bacterial species.

"All of them proved to be contaminants,
or bacteria from human skin,"..says Bulat.
More unusual

A twentieth species is more unusual.

The genetic samples..show less than 86 per cent similarity to the known major groups of bacteria...That could mean it belongs to an entirely new division,..says Bulat,..*although he concedes that it could just be..lol..a new species.

NO ONE can scientifically..[definitively]..describe the begining
nor has science..'evolved'..EVER..a single new genus..[via..NATURAL SELECTION..means not via science method]

[thousands of generations ..of UNNATURAL accelerated..fruitfly mutation..has ONLY produced fruit-flies][duh]

we have a theory..called a science][it IS ONLY a theory ]
the truth is the debate is still going

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00CXYc

if evolution can be proven..POOVE IT
links prove nothing
pictures ARNT SCIENCE

same with god creation..[like it or not atheists are made and sustained by a godless theory..[allowing them to blaspheme against god]

is anyone [ok any scientist]..even trying to validate the linkage's theorised..under pinning their evolutionary theory

or in full..by NAMING NAMES..
it is clear we dont have..the full facts
[thus e-volution..cant have claim to be a valid science]
and many clever people..claiming to not even know the question?

and many siunply rephrase the question..into one they can reply

thing is..i was taught evolution..as a child
as many of you were..[i was told..there is no god,..as many of you were..as well

well the thing is..science has not*any replicate-able answer

hasnt made any mutation..that evolves..any new genus
hasnt made its own cell..lol

i speculate..[thus evolution..isnt science]
it dosnt reveal faulsifiable facts..[thus isnt science]

we have art and philosophy
pretty pictures revealing the LOOKS LIKE
that on the surface..looks like evolutionary progression..[evolution]

but looks like isnt science
darwins finches were all finches

AT LEAST put..your proo.. on these pages please

as no one has tried to logistically explain the root of the evolutionary tree ,nor name one evolution scientifically initiated and recorded

no attempt to explain THE THEORY.

so saying its science..without fact,,well
its a theology#..[in the realm of philosophy[belief]
not science

if science it be
please explain it here and now

thus
for if/when you are asked one fine day..then and there to explain
you had some time to prepare your reply

look's like has deceived science many times
science told us..the sun turned around the earth
[till one nutter created the true..[verifiable true; science]
by proving it!..the other way round..=

till then EVEN science..was deceived..
[as evolutionists may be now]

till they can prove their theory fact
[ie get even just one..evolution..*using pure science

learned people can/will get deceived..as well as be deceiving
limited knowledge is a dangerous thing

the numbers reveal
finches breed finches
fruitfly breeds fruit fly
apes breed apes
humans breed humans

science method..has NEVER recorded nor evolved an evolution..of genus*

i put forward a link of 'genera'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Taxonomic_lists_(genera,_alphabetic)

there are millions..lol..
new genus must be popping up..all the time..yet...lol

yet no science..record of even one genus 'evolving'
its time to hang all taxonomists..by their special bits
till they validate..their fraud..lol faux science..*theory