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Solar Power worth it or not?
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Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 6:57:04 AM
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Belly, I'm not sure I fully understood your response though it seemed you thought I impugned your arithmetic... which I did not.
All I wanted to achieve was to compare the wording of your contract with the explanations for solar tariffs in the NSW Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal (iPART) "Solar feed-in tariffs, The subsidy-free value of electricity from small-scale solar PV units from 1 July 2013, Energy — Final Report June 2013" In estimating the value of PV customer exports it "determined that the benchmark range for solar feed-in tariffs in 2013/14 is 6.6 to 11.2 c/kWh of PV electricity exported by non-Solar Bonus Scheme customers." You need to remember that you are buying electricity at retail prices but selling it wholesale... whether or not that is fair. I notice that CountryEnergy charge 38.379 c/kWh between 07:00 and 22:00 and 19.107 c/kWh between 22:00 and 07:00. You're still stuck with a daily supply charge of 138.028 cents, so at 6 c/kWh you need to 'sell-back' 23 kWh to make-up just that. Doesn't seem much of an incentive. Mind you, each of the solar kWh you generate and use between 07:00 and twilight saves you 32.379 cents. Posted by WmTrevor, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 8:32:43 AM
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Wm Trevor it never entered my head that you had doubts about me additions.
The contract quite frankly was signed while empty,after it was explained to me. I had for a very long time, considered buying the panels. Missed the bus on profiting from them, never wanted to. I am just as lost as you here. Seems so silly, some can even increase their 60 cents a unit pack, by seemingly twice ? Others get 13 cents [in NSW]or 20 cents. Seems some one will rectify it as a honey pot at state elections but even then, will any change be passed on to me? I get the panels and contract next week it seems more then. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:43:20 AM
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Belly,
You will see I posted a reply to you in another thread. Sorry. Here it is, http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5889&page=12 Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 1:21:42 PM
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Thanks for a timely reminder onthebeach.
As I spent 4 grand, [yes over the odds] on the panels and the roof owes me much more, thanks. You would not believe it! a brother still earns his liveing installing iron roofs! Not going to ask him! But as I do climb on my color bond roof to adjust radio aerials I will go up and watch installation,and inform them why! Over the odds? some true shonks are in the game, my higher costs are worth it , knowing the firms owner and him knowing me. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 6:47:58 AM
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Belly,
I imagine you could have less worries with colorbond, but look up the installation instructions for the roofing which should give you the metals to avoid contact with. Here is a zincalume example, http://www.bluescopesteel.com.au/go/howto/guidelines-for-using-zincalume-steel I have built a number of times and the most common fault is that trades do not comply with manufacturers' installation instructions. They don't even read them. They cut corners ('bang 'em up'). That will result in problems -sometimes impossible to resolve- down the track when the obligatory builder's warranty/insurance period is over. The other issue is leaving the owner with too frequent or difficult maintenance bwhere the builder pocketed a few extra dollars by preferring cheap, poor quality sealants and so on. That is a problem often seen in caravans and transportable homes where el cheapo sealants are applied to smooth surfaces (eg painted aluminium), only to shrink and lose the bond in a few years. They use a cheap product and then compound the problem by cutting corners and not roughing the surface for a proper 'key'. $60,000 caravan with rotting structure and hazardous electrical, but the builder saved enough for a six pack of beer later. A new installation like solar on a house roof brings workers without the proper skills (remember insulation) and supervision that is spread far too thinly. Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 10:08:53 AM
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As I say, the solution lies in using your FREE POWER to charge your batteries, rather than selling it for 6 cents.
Every unit you replace with your batteries, rather than buy off the grid, will save you 40 cents each unit.
Problem solved I would suggest.