Belly,

There is a small number of men and women in the unions and in the Labor Party who are bent and are using their positions and contacts for their own benefit. That has been seen in the States, all States, and has become apparent in Canberra over the past several years in particular.

It is not sufficient to bury one's head in the sand, saying that all politicians are the same, because they are not and any that are should be forced out of politics and public roles.

I daresay you would have the same concerns as any here, that if Labor got in again the rot at the top would continue and move down the structure as well. How long into the next government before more serious scandals evidence again? Labor might never rise again after that.

Everyone in Labor casually forgets that Krudd pledged to turn back the boats in 2007.

Was he lying then, or is he lying now?

SM Gillard was lying. Rudd is a lie.

The whole persona he presents is a fabrication. It is designed to present what the slimy bugger thinks the Oz people want in a PM, & he & his lady must be right to some extent, or it wouldn't work so well.

Everyone knows he is a totally different, & thoroughly nasty person, the moment the TV cameras are turned off.

Everyone knows he is totally incompetent, & should not be trusted to run the school tuck shop.

Obviously for most lefties the only thing important is being in power, & not what is best for Oz, & it's people.

Just his destruction of our boarder security should be enough to bar him from any position of influence, but they just don't care.

To those who consider the libs to be poor economic managers, and that labor, despite thier appalling record, would be better suited, I askonee simple question of you all, that being, what are you using as your evidence, as I am using track record, something that you lot surely can't use.

Belly, while I accept that the world is in debt, is is not due to waste and missmanagement like it is here, as it is more to do with finacial matters.

And, unlike us, they have not had the luxury of a mining boom to fuel their waste.

Take away mining, put in our HUGE BUSINESS COSTS and we are in exactly the same boat, but with a tiny population.

Now back to debt.

It's not a bad thing, IF WE HAD SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR IT, but we don't.

Almost everything Julia and Rudd touched, they stuffed up.

All we have to show for it is a grossly UNDERFUNDED NBN and unfunded policies such as Gonski and the NDIS.

Please tell me you're not proud of any of those under achievements!

rehctub,

http://australianpolitics.com/2012/12/14/oecd-australia-a-standout-economy.html

Yep, bloody terrible : )

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Hasbeen,

I just watched Tony Abbott turn it on for his followers.

'Twas a genuine a US style campaign launch - replete with all the hoopla!

Maybe he's onto something, and moved on from pamphlets......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS3dL1L4gTo&feature=c4-feed-bul&list=UU2rwiyz-ZyJoB-kqAEgHqMA

And further more, he wishes to be remembered as the "infrastructure" Prime Minister - which, when you think about it, is a significant departure from the usual practice of conservative governments wherein they sell off some government infrastructure and let the rest fall into disrepair.

Shadow Minister, "Everyone in Labor casually forgets that Krudd pledged to turn back the boats in 2007.
Was he lying then, or is he lying now?"

Actually, Rudd promised to turn back the boats in 2007. Then Rudd promised not to 'turn right' on the boats in 2010. Now in 2013 Rudd is again promising to turn back the boats. Come tomorrow..?

Rudd swings with the wind. Does a weather cock lie, or does it do what it does because it cannot do any better?