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Rudd to lead Labor to election victory

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Abbott will still win the election by a good margin. Labor will be wiped out and all because Labor as it stands today is not a shadow of what it was and what it stood for. It's a bit like the Volkswagen. Hitler told Porsche to make a good solid car for the people at a price they could afford. He did and the car lasted for many years in its original marque. Then it morphed into the modern copycat stylistic it is today. Just another car.
Labor was born to represent the people with socialistic values of care and empathy. It morphed into a copycat stylistic mirror of capitalistic devalued functionality that reinvented self-seeking and nepotism as a goal.
Rudd will get an extra hit to his superannuation and pension and that is really what this egomaniac wants.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:50:46 AM
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Chris "gaff" ..... I can see why you chose that name. So you "seriously" think that the reason Rudd is PM again is specifically to boost his superannuation. Nice try son, ha ha ha ha ha. You'll need to do better than that.

Within 4 weeks, the polls will have Labor and the Coalition parties neck and neck.
Posted by PJack, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:04:41 AM
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Rudd now leads an unstable party, you cannot trust to stand up protect the environment or our long term national security. And who likes Mr No Abbot ?

As a elderly community activist from the 70s ( OAM) , I am disgusted to see the first female Australian Prime Minister got rid of in this way. Also, Kevin Rudd turned his back on action on climate change and the mining tax. Meanwhile the appointment of Tony, the Abbott from hell is imminent.

At the next election my wife and I will keep doing what we always do. Hand out the out to vote card on the day, and tie up big green triangles within site of the election booth and my house well before the election. Christine Milne is the only female political party leader to get our vot
Posted by PEST, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:21:20 AM
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When Abbott became leader of the opposition Labor lead the 2pp by about 57-43.

Just before Rudd was knifed it had dropped to 52-48 on the back of the mounting boats crisis, the BER debacle etc, and Rudd was knifed by Juliar.

Juliear got a bounce in the polls as high as 56-44, but as the election approached, this dropped to 50-50.

Lessons:
1 Honeymoons are short, and not enough to win.
2 Abbott beat Rudd before, what is different this time?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:34:57 AM
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SM,

When did Abbott beat Rudd?

You're surmising that Abbott would have beaten Rudd in the 2010 election.

I surmise that installing Gillard worsened the outcome for Labor.

Both are suppositions.

There was no election between Rudd and Abbott as respective leaders of their parties.

But there will be soon.....
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:42:32 AM
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Poirot,

You can be as obtuse as you want. The stark difference in polling from Nov 2009 before Abbott took over, to June 2010 shows that TA's attack was dragging Labor and KRudd down, to the point where the difference was within statistical error, and even Labor thought they were going to lose, and Knifed Rudd. The counter supposition that Rudd beat Abbott has no support.

If you want to dabble in semantics, then while it is true TA did not beat Krudd at an election, but my supposition that TA would probably have won, at least has the confirmation that Labor with their internal polling concurred. If you wish to put your supposition on a equal status with mine, then at least put forward more persuasive than your gut feel.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:01:58 PM
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