Less than a month ago I started a thread with this;
"I can’t understand how officers of the NSW police force have not been suspended from duty after being adversely named in Coronial and Ombudsman reports, and now recommended for criminal charges by the Police Integrity Commission, in regards to the death of Roberto Curti."
Unfortunately another sad case has hit the headlines. Now police officers, not one but seven have been found to have lied before the police Integrity Commission over the tragic police shooting of Adam Salter.
Greens NSW MP David Shoebridge had this to say;
“This report is utterly damning of the police involvement in the death of Mr Salter from beginning to end, with findings of perjury, the production of knowingly false reports and grossly misleading police media statements."
“Like the recent reports into police involvement in the death of Roberto Curti from multiple Taserings, these highly critical findings into the death of Adam Salter demand action from Police Minister Michael Gallacher."
David is spot on with his call for action. Police must stop investigating police. The police internal review was found to have uncritically accepted the evidence of the police officers involved, whilst disregarding the evidence of the civilian witnesses on the critical factual issue of how Mr Salter came to be shot dead by police. As at this minute all police officers involved are still active members of the NSW police. To install a semblance of public confidence in NSW police a single statutory body to oversight all critical incident investigations involving police use of force must be established, and it must be eztablished now.

Paul show me a police force, in any country in the world that has not got bad eggs.
Show me one that is not suffering from that few who are in the job for the wrong reasons.
No defense these you talk of are criminals using the group culture to cover wrong.
You will find mostly, other police let light in on the few.

Paul1405
I, along with most of my contemporaries, would never have joined the NSW Police Force if I thought for one moment every word I spoke or attested to would not be treated as God's own truth.
The two most important points drilled into you in inductive training is that "when there are two or more police gathered together there is truth" and second "the force, and the union, will always back you up provided you back them up".
May the "Force" be with you.

As they are in Qld N.S.W are absolutely corrupt police force without any doubt. I think all police are corrupt but some are Ok with being caught for speeding. A cop let me of once even because I was speeding. But they are very corrupt most of them. In N.S.W. 7 of them killed a man from South America because they say he was shop lifting which was rubbish said the Courts.

Corruption is king...just look at the federal Parliament.

Are we over looking the facts.
It was the police integrity branch that put this latest even on our TV news.
Yes some are grubs.
But the system works.
Now more than ever it improve every day.
ICAC and I got together 25 years ago.
A chief inspector of police in asking a group to give evidence, against police, told us it is the few older not the young who blacken the whole.
Never gave evidence it pays not to, but in time most crashed and burnt in to the arms of that bloke.

In these two recent deaths one of the most alarming aspects for me is that "ordinary" and rather junior police officers being involved in what started out as fairly minor incidents, these incidents were allowed to escalate to a point where death occurred. The escalation was caused not by the victim but by the police themselves. The frequency of these types of incidents raises the question what is the general mentality of police officers in NSW, do they perceive themselves as 'above the law' are they a force of vigilantes, is it systemic, is there a Rambo culture existing. Many questions need to be answered about the mentality of NSW police officers in general.
Then there is the attempted 'cover up', not merely by those directly involved in the incidents, as that could be explained as trying to protect ones ass, and that is understandable. What is worrying is where senior officers are orchestrating a 'cover up' after the event, that is far more difficult to explain.
The first step in ridding NSW of unpalatable police conduct is to remove police powers of police investigating police. What Greens NSW MP David Shoebridge has called for, a totally independent body to investigate serious police incidents is absolutely correct. Unfortunately both the Liberals and Labor in NSW have been found wanting on this issue. Who or what are they protecting?

I'm nearly 70 years old, and the NSW Police force has been corrupt for all my years on Earth. Occasionally, they get caught and there's a big scene and something is done about it, but it NEVER goes completely away. Why not? It's because of the corrupt and illegal police "culture" of backing up fellow officers who do something illegal. For example, if one officer assaults a prisoner/suspect/member of the public in an illegal way, and it's witnessed by another officer, then that other officer must NOT under any circumstances arrest the officer who committed the assault. If he does try to arrest the officer, he can kiss goodbye FOREVER to a successful NSW police career. He/she will be harassed and bullied as much as possible by other officers.

It's a horrible culture of utter corruption in this regard, and a culture that applies to ALL NSW police officers, and not just a mere minority of bad apples. They WILL always try back up and protect other police officers who commit illegal acts, NO MATTER WHAT.

"Verbal" is and always will be the weapon of choice for any Police Force.
How the hell do you expect to control to populace if not through that single element of fear.
That knock on your door, or worse, the crashing through your door, that leads to the discovery of "evidence" and incarceration and corroborated (by police),"statements of implication" (Records of Interview)"P.I.R's" (Police Incident Reports) that have your name all over them, even your fingerprints or DNA "found at the scene of crime).
These are the tools of terror used by police to "uncover" crime or criminal behavior and induce "public cooperation" in securing that "final solution". "THE RESULT THAT POLICE WANT"
If the "final solution" required the manipulation of facts or the restructure of stated words or the "refreshment" of an officers recollections of a given statement or even the generation of "necessary" evidence then so be it for the greater good (of the "Force")
Police tactics in NSW or QLD or anywhere in Australia are no different than they were in Hitlers day or Lenin or the Inquisition. They are just a little more refined but just as good at generating that same old element of FEAR that divides "Them from Us"
In a "good" democratic society like we have no law is ever repealed because it might be needed as that "obscure" one. They are simply made temporarily redundant.
When I joined the "job" you had to buy your own weapon and it had to be concealed from the public so as not to cause alarm. Today the uniforms and jackets are especially cut to expose the lethal threat of a police utility belt. Ever wondered why?
All our laws state what you "CAN'T" do. There are none that state what you "CAN" do. Think about it.

Poor Mr "Gaff", please tell us .... are you taking cocaine or LSD tonight?

Are you in the police force still gaff100? If you are you should be sacked for admitting what you and other corrupt cops do. You had to buy your own gun when you joined the police force you say? I don't believe you for a second, though if you are a cop the truth is never part of your belief anyway. Buy your own gun, crap absolutey crap! No wonder people NEVER TRUST the coppers.

misanthrope,
No I am long retired and living off my ill gotten gains in the far north tropics. In the 60,s police were able to be armed, the choice was yours but if you choose to you paid for it yourself although you did get an ammunition allowance. Out west you could shoot certain classes of citizens on sight if they acted suspiciously (in your opinion) but you did have to make a report at the nearest police station. You even got fined a 'silver' coin for "lawful Killing". Haven't we come a long way. Now you get issued with a very effective killing device (Glock 9mm) soon to be upgraded to .50 cal and you cannot kill citizens unless you have in-house corroborating statements by your fellow officers attesting to the necessity of your action.
Mate, "reasonable suspicion" is the greatest tool in the police kit. With "reasonable suspicion" one could even remove any 'suspicious' misanthropes that might be hanging around street corners or public toilets so keep your head down.

No it's you, you miserible little corrupt ex pretending copper, that needs to keep his head down? For sure you coundn't hold your head high could you, you strange friendless little man. Now hurry up and return to the rock from under which you just crawled. You corrupt, cowardly ex copper.