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The Forum > General Discussion > Did Rudd, Howard or any previous PM ever have to deal with this?

Did Rudd, Howard or any previous PM ever have to deal with this?

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Any room here for the truth?
The menu, silly as it was.
Was left to wait 2 months before it surfaced.
Childlike, it never reached the highs of derogatory comment both sides OFTEN use in print.
I have seen worse out side ALP conferences aimed at both ALP and Liberals of note.
Its purpose,very reason for being squirreled away and used now?
To take our minds away from polls showing a return of Kevin Rudd could even bring victory.
And a large serving of humble pie to Gillards spine less supporters.
While Gillard, mounted on the backs of those ragged Billy Goats offers only sexism and huff and puff .
It is intended by supporters those inside and out of the house who carry still her knives.
But lack the ability to see the future pain their actions bring.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 16 June 2013 7:01:41 AM
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Belly I don't know that it's all about Kevin. Julia seems to be trying to play off the gender wars and is scrabbling for any scrap of "evidence". As evidence on this site there are plenty who think it's different when their side does it, something about the context or the audience makes it different in their minds.

Unfortunately there are some on the conservative side who play along, who think think that gender is the issue rather than values.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 16 June 2013 7:14:49 AM
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Gender discussion is fundamentally about values, R0bert. Feminism has derogated the values that I hold as important and has replaced them with no values at all other than the primacy of narrow selfishness as a guiding principle. Our PM is an embodiment of that principle and all of her rhetoric about disadvantage is no more than that. She is bereft of any ethical values, but values herself highly, which sums up the society that feminism has created and her with it.

I won't bother arguing any further about the Sattler comments, since it seems that for some it is a matter of faith rather than reason, but such is life, 'twere ever thus.
Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 16 June 2013 8:46:50 AM
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The spin masters are manipulating the tabloid reporters, who in turn serve editors who are pleased for anything that is cheap reporting, can be developed into a soap serial and caters to the seemingly insatiable appetite for low grade stories.

Without doubt editors would be aware of the facts Belly related above. They should be joining Actors' Equity along with the politicians.

All of the main protagonists, Julia Gillard, Tony Abbott and Christine Milne prefer to run campaigns based on the character of the candidate rather than on policies, facts and hard numbers. Julia Gillard for instance said the election was about Mr Abbott's values - anti-women and un-Australian, she says without a flicker. Gillard is an untrustworthy person to Abbott. For her part, Christine Milne believes that all politicians are dishonest, except for the Greens, remarkable!

It also suits reporters, almost all of whom would make the late Richard Carlton's efforts appear the very pinnacle of investigative journalism, yet he was a joke in his day. Honestly, you can see Julia slowly coaching most of these dills of reporters as she is supposedly being interviewed. Very few of these journalists could investigate a primary school fete without a media release from the headmistress to hastily pencil their own name on and hand to the editor. The attitude is, 'Who cares, as long as it entertains the punters?'.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 16 June 2013 9:22:45 AM
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The politicisation of the media is pretty much complete. There are very few journalists who are not polarised politically on party lines, which they sometimes dress up as "progressive" or "conservative". The problem is that they often don't have an underlying philosophy informing their adopted label, but adhere to ideology and solidarity while platitudinising.

We essentially have little scope for politicians to do anything sudden or radical, with the inertia of the bureaucracy being the principal force for stability in politics. It takes time to implement social changes when you have to indoctrinate 40,000 bureaucrats in DHS before you start, facing resistance all the way from both genuinely opposing forces and the sheer laziness of people.
Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 16 June 2013 10:31:22 AM
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Seems like a true merchant of hate, another on ABC this morning got a bit close.
Now may I ask just why, with so very many, both sexes being out of the closet and campaigning for Gay rights, including Marriage, is this question so bad?
*Gillard is using the whole issue*
To hide her low polling and we, all of us, are foolish enough to let her or any one, turn the election in to a circus or sexist street fight.
*I with passion, on behalf of my party*
Require to know why its controllers think our defeat is better than dumping a dud!
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 16 June 2013 1:59:50 PM
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