Hi Belly,

She lost me last year when she defended Slipper for his vile comments, and had the cheek to attack Abbott - and for what ? For looking at his watch. So looking at your watch is a worse offense than describing a woman's private parts as like a jar of mussels ? What a complete hypocrite.

Then she sucks up to that slime Sandilands.

Then she leans over Senator McCrossin, to dump her and try to parachute Nova Peris into her Senate seat. 'Captain's pick' indeed.

And then, tries to float one of her backers into Batman, ahead of a far better qualified woman candidate.

And THEN, she tries that cheap stunt of slagging people who wear ties - ooh, gosh, they are usually men - and blue ties like Abbott's, especially. In front of a lot of young women holding up sings 'Women for Gillard'. And raises the old boogey-man about abortion.

One wonders what would happen, in an extremely hypothetically world, if Abbott fronted a crowd holding up signs saying 'Men for Abbott'.

No, I hope that Labor sticks with Gillard. They don't deserve to be in power for a good few terms, and the longer she is in charge, the less likely it will be that I will ever see a Labor government again, or at least its current members.

A disastrous defeat, winning say, fewer than 30 seats, might make the Party think very deeply about what it stands for in the rapidly-technoligising and -privatising twenty-first century, about what it means to be 'progressive', and who they might represent in a very different world from 1891.

Joe

This thread has run its predictable, high brow course.

Anyway, to focus on one thing of any substance, "A disastrous defeat, winning say, fewer than 30 seats, might make the Party think very deeply about what it stands for...."

What the Federal Labor Party stands for is on the record. What the LNP stands for lies, so far, in a pile of motherhood statements designed not to scare the horses. Just what does it stand for other than being against everything Labor stands for? It appears unlikely we will be informed in any detail before September, Rupert has decided.

This is the path Howard took to the Lodge with his small target, headland speech approach. Australia cannot afford another decade or so of zero progress while the world presses in, but the polls tell us that's where we're headed.

Poor fella Australia.

Lucyface,

You sound a little paranoid. Perhaps you forget that the reason that Labor is failing is precisely because it says it stands for something, and then does exactly the opposite.

The latest travesty is the referendum for recognition of local government. An agreement was reached with the liberals that they would not oppose the referendum if equal funding was given to both sides of the question (as has been the practise for past referendums). The senate funding bill was just hammered through with 20x the funding for the yes vote.

Loudmouth good morning, you and I no longer matter to the ALP.
Silly? not so! polling clearly shows she is not wanted even in her party.
But personal pride of others inflicts this woman prone to say anything she thinks will help her.
We men can take heart!
While the daughter of our Lady Governor General, wife of Gillards knife holder, is now to head women for Gillard!
She can only bring 34% of her women to her side.
She is gone lets see who she takes with her.
A once known woman told what the people wanted, food, *said let them eat cake*
Gillard? what ever her last words as PM as they will be a blessing!

Dictator Gillard yesterday told caucus not to think of them selves.
In doing so she also said not to think of us.
Few may know, but Gillards Captain,s pick, the NT Senate seat, had to join the ALP, after being selected and told about our values!
Gillard is an extraordinary women, but nothing nice meant by that.