runner

Politicians AKA bloodsucking parasites are right at the very top of my hate list, in my book there is no lower life-form than bottom-feeding grubs who abuse a position of trust, even snouts like banksters are higher up the evolutionary ladder. Cyclists are only bit players in the scheme of things, for the most part they are just as much victims of the system as motorists, truckies, ratepayers, solar power system owners, non-solar owners & all the other small groups targeted by the bloodsucking parasites who figure 'divide & conquer' is a legitimate political tool.

Prax,

It's interesting that you put in a lot of time and energy around here criticising the status quo.

Does it ever occur to you that roads and cars and the whole kit and kaboodle of industrial civilisation is invested in keeping you in your car and commuting and consuming...just like the pollies are part of it. It's all one big crazy bundle with us chucked in.

And your beef is with a few cyclists who happen to slow the bullsh!t down a bit.

Bit of a laugh....

'So observes our not-so-moderate fundamentalist Christian. '

yes Poirot the observance from a fundie feminist/secularist. I realise anything that exposes your gw religion and other dogmas comes across as very extreme to u. I do note that my voting intentions are alot more in line with the majority than yours.

Poirot

The issues involving cyclists & motorists in my particular area is slightly more significant ... for a start there have been two deaths on one 20k length of road already this year & neither cyclists nor motorists were deemed to be 'at fault'. Seems to me there is good reason to take the matter seriously.

runner,

You keep calling me a feminist...I'm supposing it's because you're incapable of scouting around inside your noggin for something that actually resembles moi, but instead rely on your regular and generic classification system employed for people who disagree with runner.

Prax,

I don't have aproblem with people looking seriously at the issue.

I was just curious how you so fulsomely critique other aspects of the status quo - yet defend it on the subject of pesky bike riders.

Hasbeen your comments are typical of many drivers dangerous attitudes on this list, when he states that.

“Bikes & any other unregistered item should be banned from all roads. We are not, & don't want to be Copenhagen.” and goes on to say ” Now if motorists were issued with free bull bars, & given a discount off their registration for every bike they eliminate, we could all have a bit of fun”.

Consider the road safety facts about Copenhagen and Swdwen which are far safer for cyclists and pedestrians. But more importantly for all road users when measured by road safety experts Sweden and Australia in 2012 for all road deaths per 100,000 population In Sweden of 2.9 and 6.1 in Australia.

Which means that Sweden’s roads are twice as safe as Australia’s and that in 2012 there would have been 625 less roads in Australia.

Grow up Australian petrol heads you need to get rid of your dangerous driving attitudes because you are at serious risk to cyclists, pedestrians and especially the elderly. All because of the crap you have in your heads.