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Julia Gillard: - Affirmative action that failed.

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Lexi it is no good quoting propaganda sheets on here sweetie. We all know that Labor has bought & paid for the ABC, then filled it with disciples.

It is about time we told Indonesia to go jump. Why we accept their refusal to take back their own boats that departed their shore I have no idea, but it is time it stopped. Nothing like calling the bluff of these people.

Yes we all know the problem was caused by Rudd. with his desire for a high post at the UN. Go soft on boat people was his application for a job. His ego, & ambition have cost us dearly. It is a cost that we will still be paying in 50 years time, in a country as divided as so many are all ready.

Just look at the African states with mixed Muslim & Christian population. There, thanks to Rudd, go we, in the very near future, if we are not actually all ready there.

Australians not yet born will be paying for the arrogant stupidity of Rudd, & the total incompetence of Gillard.

The current attempt to buy the Muslim vote in western Sydney, perpetuating the do nothing illegal boat people policy, is all evidence of the lack of interest in the well being of future generations.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 8 June 2013 2:48:56 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

I know you luv me darlin but you're wrong.
You think you know everything, but you
know nothing. That clearly points to a
political career with the Liberal Party.

Cheers.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 8 June 2013 4:03:02 PM
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Lexi,

It worked before and will work again.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 9 June 2013 2:44:03 AM
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Dear SM,

It didn't work before and it will not work again.
It cost the taxpayers a fortune, it caused a
great deal of mental anguish to the people being
detained - women and children included. Most of
them got to stay in Australia despite everything -
anyway and the brief stop that did occur was not
due to any policies - but to global conditions
worldwide at the time.

Indonesia is doing its bit in dealing with this
issue. They have succeeded in stopping a large
percentage of the boats. However they can't possibly
patrol their entire vast coast-line, they don't have
the navy or task force to do it. But they are co-operating
with the Australian government. We'd be getting far more
boats if Indonesia wasn't stopping what it could.
They have made it quite clear that they will not accept
any boats being returned to Indonesia. And they won't.
Considering the fact that we're a signatory to the Refugee
Convention - are you suggesting that Mr Abbott is going
to tear up this document and make us a tyrant in the global
community? I don't believe that he will do that.

What you are suggesting is illogical.
It reeks of rhetoric and spin and I only
wish that for just once you'd use the intelligence
that you claim you have.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 9 June 2013 10:46:06 AM
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.....Go soft on boat people was his application for a job

Yes hasbeen, it is possible that this is his reasoning for not challenging the top job.

When you think about it, if he took a job on the UN now, labor's chances would be even worse that they already are, but at least with him staying put, at least until the election, his believers stil have that glimar of hope to cling to.

Either way, he can't loose, as he either walks into the too job, or he takes up a role with the UN, or some other cushy position he might well have sured up during his time as a minister/back bencher.

Lexi, while I understand the complexity of turning back the boats, the cause of the problem will haunt Rudd and the labor party for decades, as they will always have blood on their hands.as it was they who created this mess, Abbott will simply be trying to clean up the mess.

As for repealing the carbon tax, my tip is this will be the very first matter of business, as Abbott will be actively seeking a trigger for a DD election, as replacing the failed labor party is only the first step forward, chucking the greens out of the senate is a must.

The other trigger will be repealing the right of entry of unions, or the mining tax.

Let's see how accruate I can be.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 9 June 2013 6:51:18 PM
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Lexi,

When the pacific solution was introduced the boats dropped by 98%. When the pacific solution was removed they increased by 30 000%. Nowhere is there any correlating change in refugees. It is time to stop spouting this nonsense. Like claiming the earth is flat does not convince anyone, it just make you look fruity.

From the papers today, it looks increasingly like Juliar's leadership is in its death throes and she will be the first PM in history to knife her PM to get the job, and to be lynched by her own caucus within a term. That's what she will be remembered for.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 10 June 2013 6:17:17 AM
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