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NBN - Fibre (asbestos) to the home.

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Dear o sung wu,

You always argue on an intelligent level, not
an emotional one and you always graciously
listen to opposing views even though you may
not algree with them. That is a rare quality
on this forum - and one I admire greatly.

Telstra has accepted the blame fully for this
current mess.

As long as it is fixed to everyone's satisfaction
that's what matters. Trying to score political
points out of this situation says a great deal
about the character and ethics of those doing it.
Especially when they still have litigation pending
with things like - slush funds and other matters
that will eventually be disclosed.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 4:39:34 PM
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......Thank you for your constructive thoughts LEXI, I really appreciate them. Again, I believe this is an issue that should be dealt with in a bi-partisan fashion, other than engaging in the old finger pointing game.

O... I would normally agree with you there, however, once again, THEY WERE WARNED, and ONCE AGAIN, they (labor) chose to ignore the EXPERTS warnings.

....Asbestos, no probs. Vote LNP and it'll go away, just like asylum seekers.

Luc, no, .the illegals debacle won't just go away, but do remember, the problem was under control pre Kevin 07.

This, along with the other messes created by this mob, NBN, NDIS, GONSKI , all of which are proving to be either unaffordable, or unfunded, are going to make life very difficult, especially given the amount of debt that they have racked up.

Just sit back and watch the blame game unfold, once this mob gets chucked out.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 6:31:10 PM
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'evening REHCTUB, SHADOW MINISTER & HASBEEN...

Thank you for your collective opinions and thoughts on this complicated issue. From the outset, I must declare my own political affiliations of being, far to the right of Genghis Kahn ! Also, I'd be the last person ever to contemplate casting my vote in favour of the Labor Party.

Sorry there LEXI, POIROT and my good mate BELLY, I don't mean in any way to cast aspersions upon those folk herein, who genuinely support the Labor Brand and all that it represents ! Myself, I'd always vote for the LNP even if Kublai Kahn was at it's head ? Even then, I'd probably still accuse him of being a moderate ! :-)

Seriously, with respect to this asbestos issue, I honestly don't think it's really down to any covert political malfeasance, by anyone.

Perhaps Labor have been too slow to get the issue off the ground, as well as underestimating the overall costs ? It's all too easy to level 'broadsides' of criticism at governments, when you're in opposition. Come September, all those clever (vocal) Liberals will have the opportunity to show us all, how it should be done ? I for one, will be closely watching Mr Scott Morrison, do his magic with all these hundreds of illegal boat people ?

Because, in my humble opinion, this whole immigration mess, together with our 'leaky' borders, with masses of illegals entering our country, essentially unfettered ! This issue alone, in my view, will be at the very core of this next election ?

My only REAL concern, when the LNP do ultimately tighten up our borders, the real, the bona fide, the genuine boat people, who're fleeing for their lives, might well end up losing out altogether ? Such will be the impenetrability of the new Liberal Government's catchment apparatus, to prove it's overall effectiveness, compared with anything Labor might contrive ?

Sorry, my eyes are very tired, please excuse me ?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 10:43:13 PM
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In business, safety is driven from the top. It is the NBN that is driving the work in the pits, and it is the NBN that must take some responsibility. If someone that works for me does something that is patently unsafe and an enquiry is held, I carry the can irrespective of whether my employee knew he was breaking the rules and takes responsibility.

This asbestos release was a known risk and entirely preventable, and it was entirely within Comrade Conjob's power to ensure that it didn't happen. Labor always talks up a storm on safety, but their actions are very careless towards the welfare of those working on their projects.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 6 June 2013 6:10:50 AM
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Senator Stephen Asbestos Conroy has a lot to answer for.

No one could accuse him of being competent.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 6 June 2013 4:03:33 PM
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With the LNP's cheaper faster NBN claim, it has no doubt taken asbestos into account, right? The LNP's prescience on all matters is most impressive and it's a shame it didn't weigh in with its concerns together with its NBN policy, just to be able show how bl00dy marvelous it is and to able to say I told you so at some future point. No doubt it has its own specialist people in every field, and would never take advice from government partners and agencies, right?

Asbestos or no, the NBN must be built. It's extremely important to our future, despite what the dinosaurs tell us. The LNP has no intention of turning one sod of earth to make it happen, despite having a stated policy making outrageous claims of its own about speed, cost (Labor's and its own real final cost)and timing. Its policy exists simply to counter Labor, then to be buried into a false scare about dire public finances should it win in September
Posted by Luciferase, Thursday, 6 June 2013 7:56:35 PM
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