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Abbott's credibility is shredded

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Don't discount the minority groups
coming up through the ranks.
They just may surprise.
And where would the Liberal Party be
without its Coalition?
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 10:18:13 PM
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shadow minister

As I've said previously, you may just be correct about one federal ALP member in Queensland but LNP will also take a big hit. There are 14,000 public servants, tens of thousands of business employees who are on Newstart because of the public service sackings, every single pensioner, every single ratepayer, nearly 500,000 PV system owners who are fed up to the back teeth with the mindless crappings on by McArdle & Newman, actually just about everyone in the state has been put offside to some extent by the Newman / Seeney / Nicholls dictatorship. There is no way known Newman has a ghost of a chance of winning his seat of Ashgrove again, same goes that knuckledragging thug Seeney & the near moronic Nicholls. Its inconceivable that Village Idiot Bates will last the term, Phantom Driscoll is already a politically dead man walking, the list goes on and on. For a party which had every opportunity to stay in office indefinitely, the clowns have excelled themselves with the number of 'interesting' events in which they have become embroiled. I'm not aware of one person in favour of the latest state budget, even one-eyed (or no, two, three or four eyed for that matter) Queenslander who is in favour). I spoke to a number of group leaders yesterday who are discussing the possibility of pushing for a vote of no confidence in Newman / Seeney / Nicholls & seems that is a distinct possibility. At least some of this angst is bound to flow on to RAbbott & Co. Like Lexi says, there are alternatives, including one with good candidates in all house & senate seats ... something that has never been the case previously. The 2013 federal election is a different event than any before, we are entering uncharted waters.
Posted by praxidice, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 5:56:38 AM
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P,

You need to take a step back and differentiate between your feelings and those of the rest of Queensland. Whilst trimming the bloated public service, the LNP's popularity dipped, but recent polls put them pretty much where they were at the election.

As for a no confidence vote, given that the labor opposition can all fit in a large SUV, that is a bit of a joke. As for the "angst" about which you talk, all the latest polls seem to put Abbott and the coalition in the best position it has been for nearly a decade.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 8:42:43 AM
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Prax,
I support Hasbeens view. The priority now is to be rid of this Labor mob. The reality is, under present voting system, the LNP are the only alternative. I will give my primary vote to a minor parties as an encouragement, but the second vote will go to the LNP. I do not like the present system but we have it for the coming election and will have to make the best of it.

I have some reservations about Abbott but he is not the LNP and has recently been shown the party can overrule him. All very well to say I don't like either party and vote informal, but that is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I expect the LNP to stop the boats and have far better financial management as they have previously shown. I can lobby for change after the election.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 10:11:11 AM
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Shadow Minister

I fully agree that the horribly bloated public service needed to be savagely slashed, however there are major problems with the way it was undertaken. Firstly, many of the worst parasites (ie the A06 - A08 & senior executive service drones) were retained, and indeed some of those are attacking the Newman / Seeney / Nicholls dictatorship from within.

Secondly, neither Health nor Energex / Ergon have been subject to significant trimming, Health still has three administrative staff per clinical, and Energex / Ergon have four administrative per 'worker'.
There are reasons for this, most significant of which is the ease of sale to an entity wanting an 'under management' operation.

The list of Queenslanders disenchanted with Newman / Seeney / Nicholls goes well beyond public servants. There are numerous businesses which used to trade with gubmunt areas that no longer exist, some have gone to the wall and others downsized, whatever, there are tens of thousands of victims there alone. Next there are pensioners, property owners, business operators, retirees etc who have been hurt by Newman / Seeney / Nicholls actions. Over the past few days, Newman has picked up the 'PV system owners are evil' cudgel previously wielded by Energy Minister McArdle. Despite advice from barristers they are flogging a VERY dead and decaying horse (400,000 strong class action), the clowns are determined to shift focus from their own avarice & ineptitude onto people they until recently commended for saving the state the cost of new power stations.

The aforementioned plus a raft of other issues that have yet to be taken account of in the various polls mean that things aren't necessarily what they may appear. Sure the opposition meets in a prehistoric Tarago, however there is a Plan B that hasn't been published.

Hasbeen is correct in stating first priority is to dispose of the rad-headed witch, nevertheless there is more than one way to de-fur a feline.
Posted by praxidice, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:17:52 PM
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Lexi, "where would the Liberal Party be without its Coalition?

Where would Labor be without the Greens protest party?

Whoops, whatever you do, don't mention the Fellow Earthians. The Gaia Religious Party.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 6:05:48 PM
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