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China Hacks Crucial US Military Secrets.

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http://rt.com/usa/us-military-chinese-hackers-792/ For 3 years China has been able to hack into QinetQ and get info on drones,satellites,military robotics etc.

They may also have stolen the codes and design details of weaponry and could disable any pre-emptive attacks by the USA.They could possibly send those missiles right back from whence they came.

Notice how the attitude towards China has changed recently.They are no longer our enemy?
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 May 2013 8:30:22 AM
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Arjay,

Get a life mate. If you can’t get a life learn to read.

The problem you have is that when you read this CT site stuff you are so stimulated that you brain misses such words as “allegedly” and those “associated with”.

Surely you can find something more productive or rewarding than this tish? Your stimulation threshold would have to be lower than a snakes belly get a buzz out of this.
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 5 May 2013 1:17:52 PM
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America has been selling military equipment and software for years with backdoors installed so they can disable them.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 5 May 2013 2:00:08 PM
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Spindoc if you read the article it was originally posted in Bloomberg.So you have commented on something you have not read.Russia Today publishes more truth than our pressitutes.

The other possibility is that the USA has let them hack into their systems as set up,thus the info is useless.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 May 2013 2:51:55 PM
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What spindoc said.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 5 May 2013 3:11:13 PM
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Yes Arjay, we know.

There was a time when the Russians tried to “steal” design specs for the Concord from Felton. The specs they stole were very slightly altered and allowed to go though to the Russians.

The only indication that the Russians had “bought” into the scam was when their own version, the Tupalov 144, otherwise know as the “Concordsky”, arrived at the Paris Air Show with some rather unusual “canards”.

The BA engineers knew immediately that the Russians had experienced the design flaws they had leaked to the Russians. The Tupalov 144 crashed during a low speed turn at the Paris Air Show and never went into service.

The point I’m making is nothing new, it has happened many times before and across a wide range of technologies across multiple commercial interests and sovereign powers across many, many years.

So stop getting so excited about the way the world works because it is just the way the world works.

What is your life all about when you keep getting orgasmic about reality? Is it such a surprise to you?

I say again, get a freekin’ life Arjay.
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 5 May 2013 3:50:05 PM
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Spindoc if you cannot be civil,don't bother commenting.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 May 2013 5:49:19 PM
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Arjay,

If you can’t stand your own corner, on your own thread, with your own facts and your own research, you can take a long walk on a short pier.

You launch CT rubbish, can’t substantiate it, can’t back it up, can’t rationalize it, can’t apply any logic, can’t assimilate it, and don’t have any opinion other than the one you have adopted from the internet.

Then you have the unmitigated juvenile audacity to wonder why you get challenged.

Why don’t you go back to year 7, get an education, have words with your parents and ask them why they screwed your head, ask them why, at whatever age you are, you still have the mentality of my six year old granddaughter? She would run bloody rings round you.

Go see a doctor, get some medication, stop feeding off the internet CT sites and get yourself a life.

You are a sick puppy, a no hoper, you blame anyone and everything for your condition, you don’t understand reality and you never will. You need help, go and get it.

You ask for civility, that my friend is the last refuge of an idiot pretending to be a real person
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 5 May 2013 7:03:35 PM
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Both Paul Keating and Malcolm Fraser warned last year about the containment policy the US had on China.They were trying to surround China.We had all the rhetoric of evil China and even Julie Bishop posted a couple on OLO about the rise of China.Our leaders just roll out the rhetoric given to them by US intelligence agencies.

Now China is again our friend.Why the change of rhetoric? The invasion of Afghanistan was based on the lie of terrorism.The US was there for drugs, oil access ,lithium and strategic access to China.

So Spindoc can you suggest a reason why there is a sudden change in attitude towards China ? Graham Cook has just posted an article on OLO saying Aust does not have to choose between USA and China.

Try to be just little bit polite as Graham Young wants to elevate standards on his sight. You can get your point across without ad hominem.

If you want to know what is really happening see http://globalresearch.ca/
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 May 2013 9:59:01 PM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-01/china-cyberspies-outwit-u-s-stealing-military-secrets.html Two ex-Pentagon officals has said that China has hacked almost every major defence contractor and made off with their most closely guarded secrets.This is not a one off small contractor.

This is a very big story and confirms my suspicions of why now China is being treated with more respect.If the USA now go cold on the dangers of North Korea,this will further add fuel to the fire that their military secrets have been seriously compromised.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 May 2013 10:29:04 PM
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Sounds like more bulldust to me, Arjay to bring in tougher internet regulations. The US have been trying to censor the internet for ages now with their SOPA, PIPA, crap. And didn't they just get blasted out of court with their latest harebrained scheme? Bureaucrats will spin any hogwash to get their way, think of the children!

I mean look at the bombings in Syria by Israel yesterday. It was on the net that Israel had bombed Syria while the flames were still rising and the body bits hadn't hit the ground yet. How can CNNCNBCABCMSNBC spin the bull of Assad using chemical weapons when some pesky little kid is filming the black-ops trying to perform their nefarious acts with his IdiotPhone?

Do you honestly believe the yanks would have their most prize secrets on computers connected to the internet? I'm just a lowly mug and I don't keep private stuff on my home network!
Posted by RawMustard, Sunday, 5 May 2013 10:53:55 PM
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Rawmustard how do these various defence bodies communicate their enormous amounts of data if not via the internet? They'd have to set up separate cabling systems to have total security.Don't forget also the satellite communications which messages can be intercepted.

Their encryption systems are supposed to give them 100% security.

Nothing surprises me,since the West is so wracked with nepotism and corruption,that no one now really cares.We are going down just like the Roman empire.

The Romans used to have a cheap bronze money that was carefully regulated by the state.Caesar came along and made gold the new currency.Since the rich had most of the gold they assumed most of the wealth.Hence the real productive economy was starved of the medium of exchange.

Just like an engine that is starved of oil,our economies seize up and collapse.The elite bankers are starving the real productive economy of liquidity and inflating their gambling economy of derivatives to higher levels of insanity.

China produces 80% of its new money via Govt banks.This is another reason why they can grow at 12% pa.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 5 May 2013 11:34:45 PM
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never went into service.
Sindoc,
You'll find that the Tupolev144 was & probably still is in service albeit not in supersonic mode.
Posted by individual, Monday, 6 May 2013 6:05:53 AM
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Indy,

I think the last time the 144 flew was about 1976, 36 years ago. Yes it did have about 100 plus domestic (face saving) flights but never entered service as an international competitor to the Concord which is what it was built for.

Not the point though really. I just used that as an example of the long and varied history of thieving the data and intellectual properties of others.

If we somehow think that it is not done by every government we have rocks in our heads.

There exists a global infrastructure of direct, aligned and private data thieves. They steal government, military, commercial, social, research, political, financial and personal data. It is getting bigger, more sophisticated, more profitable and more intrusive by the hour.

There is also an entire on-line industry making money out of it by constructing and posting CT’s on the internet.

So for the likes of Arjay, who can’t accept that this is a huge global industry that spawns profiteering, even from those gullible enough to froth at the mouth over CT’s, there is only one question, what does one get out of it?
Posted by spindoc, Monday, 6 May 2013 8:35:51 AM
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Arjay,
Rawmustard is almost certainly correct in that real defense data
is not connected to the internet.
Why could they not communicate without the internet ?
The internet is not all there is, it is just one network. the largest
but not the only network. There could be dozens of worldwide networks.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 6 May 2013 8:45:14 AM
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Rawmustard,if the establishment were going to use military hacking as a way of internet censorship,this story would be all over our corporate media.The Pentagon is obiviously embarrassed by it as witnessed by it's silence on the matter.

The US and Israel have now again turned their attention to Syria and Iran.They seem to be doing deals with Russia over Syria the Chechyn terrorist false flag in Boston.Russia may well betray Syria.

These Oligarchs be they Russian,Western or Chinese, are all consumed with power lust that is taking us to the brink of extinction.Our criminal Banking,Military,Industrial Complex is by far the worse.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 6 May 2013 8:16:28 PM
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