Some of America has woken up Arjay and I believe that Ron Paul's failed 2008 attempt did bring an awareness of the corruption in the current administration and their plans to "control" the population.

Suse, about gun control, a trendy issue, I wake each and every day to news of shootings in my city...there were two this very morning...every day. The issue is not safety; the issue is one of “them and us,” particularly in the USA.

In the USA more die from pre meditated self harm than victims of crime by gun. More people die from poisoning and car crashes than criminal gun play.

They don't want the wider community to have firearms in case these democratically elected overseers have to subdue the wider electoral base. Simple as that.

suseonline never means tougher action against criminals with guns, or even tougher action against violence, which is almost invariably due to drugs, including alcohol.

She means the unreasonableness of 'gun control'. Not illegl use, not violence control, not crime control and cxertainly not drugs control. Suseonline aims at banning lawful ownership by law-abiding licensed persons, farmers, Olympic target shooters, pest cullers and the like.

Always interesting how gun control activists are never concerned about crime and illegal gun use.

But then Suseonline can never see any reason why anyone should be permitted to do anything she is not interested in personally. It is called authoritarianism. Better she never seeks a firearms licence.

Hey suseonline, what have you done that you are so afraid of yourself and your neighbours?

Suseonline be happy!
Being told by arjay we are uninformed is a blessing.
And sorry SOG but you are way out there alining your self to arjays unbelievable tales.

Belly>> And sorry SOG but you are way out there alining your self to arjays unbelievable tales<<

I have mentioned to you before Belly my china, Arjay may be wrong in some of his individual suppositions, as we all are at times, but he grasps how little we voters now matter in the first world because the system is controlled by a secretive few.

Sovereign nations no longer control their destiny. The IMF and the United Nations call all the shots when it comes to global fiscal and social policy, and who voted for them. You only have to ask yourself one thing. If your family were part of the 15% that own 85% of the globes total resources is anything off the table when you discuss global population management.

The way they see it, they house us, they clothe us, they feed us. These people think in these terms, I probably would if born into a family that control and rule over everything that matters. Of all the monarchs in history none have had the control over the everyday lives of the masses as these princes of globalization have.

We have a new morality china, if we plebs misappropriate funds from a financial institution our sentence is similar to a second degree murder. But what happened to the shylock money houses of New York such as Lehman Bros whose policies sent millions broke in 2008...nothing happens to them.

Who is protecting them, the people wanted them held to account but the government instead props them up with the people’s money…..Give me a break….If you poke them with a stick it stinks.

Sonofgloin , good morning.
Tell me, have you ever thought about my words, about the themes both you and arjay put here.
Have you ever gave thought to how you would block people knowing you had plans that did not involve them.
I once put the truth about banking here in print.
It was welcomed as another 9/11 type fantasy

About its birth, gold smiths learning they could lend based on the gold they held in safety for other people.
And that once, oh yes it is true! an English King had notched sticks declared legal tender!
That Banks, privately owned, lend nothing! they lend more than they hold on others behalf.
People weary and warn out by conspiracy's so clearly untrue, fail to under stand who owns the Federal Reserve bank, and who profits and even controls Americas money.

See I truly think , not pulling your leg, you and arjay might well be of more service to true Conspirators than any one.
I have no doubt, not at all,9/11 was a Islamic terrorist act, nothing more.
I often, wounder did Roosevelt know, in advance ,Japan was to bomb Pear Harbor, it taking place was the only thing, that saw Americs people except entry in to ww2.
And was it a plan, to let Russia, separate issue, do the hard work, against Germany?, when America fought the Japanese first?
Maybe I deceive myself,it can be so,for any of us, but true active conspiracy's get hidden under the laughter bought on by the silly stuff.

Now there is another one that has one huge and salient quandary to it, and that fact coupled with the intelligence reports makes me suspect.

Carriers never go anywhere unescorted....never. Yet every carrier in the US South Pacific Fleet had bolted out to sea unescorted a few days before the attack, and every battleship in the fleet was tied up at Honolulu.