SM, A little sad on the response to the speed question (and we haven't yet discussed throughput) while top-heavy on matters that will affect any government trying to move things along rather than letting things politely evolve. Why do you not respond to Mark Gregory's (and many other experts') points where you disagree instead of impressing away with your authority, real or imagined? I seem to recall that when the LNP position was "no NBN", so was yours.

To boil it all down, the position hasn't moved much past let's not be too excited about an NBN because everyone has the speed they currently need or can buy fast enough to meet it if they're fortunate enough to be able to throw enough money at it. Meanwhile, lets evolve into fibre to the premises almost as we would have naturally, with a combination of public and private money.

Sorry, I don't trust the LNP, which has been dragged along kicking and screaming to this point, to move this matter along. Once elected it will manufacture whatever justifications it needs to stall as it sees fit.

The fact remains, folks, if you want a fibre NBN vote Labor. We are already behind the world on this and the debt to get things done will repay itself many, many times over while natural evolution will cost us many times more.

<<Sorry, I don't trust the LNP, which has been dragged along kicking and screaming to this point, to move this matter along. Once elected it will manufacture whatever justifications it needs to stall as it sees fit.>>

Amen, I join your prayers Luciferase.

<<The fact remains, folks, if you want a fibre NBN vote Labor.>>

So if you want to stop that madness, you need to vote LNP, even if you happen to like Labor's other policies.

<<We are already behind the world>>

`Already`? thankfully we never were there! We are STILL a tiny bit behind the world's digital madness as it rushes down the gurgler, not keeping a distance far enough behind as we should.

I work for a large company with dozens of engineers and racks of computer systems connected to the outside world with a 100Mb/s fiber connection that very seldom sees anywhere near full capacity useage.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 27 April 2013 8:10:02 AM

When debating installation of networks with an electrical engineer who has spent more than two decades installing electrical and communications networks
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 29 April 2013 11:32:55 PM

Luciferase – Told you, SM is not capable of logical debate.

Above are a couple of excerpts from this thread. I reckon SM might have a vested interest that he/she isn’t declaring. Perhaps this large company has something to gain from the Turnbull option?

Based on the time SM spends on OLO not much work is being done.
The other option is that SM is an artist whose medium of choice is male cow faeces. Of course only right leaning cows!

Producer,

You get the tin foil hat award for conspiracy theories. This will go some way to make up for you complete lack of technical qualifications. Sorry if you didn't understand my arguments, next time I will use small words suitable for people with an IQ of a squirrel.

LF,

The coalition has always advocated installing a fiber backbone to supply "nodes". However, it has inherited the Enron like NBN Co which is really a cover to hide debt, and short of selling off the stuff up that is the NBN, the better alternative is to reform it in more logical, but suboptimal form.

I can't wait for this incompetent government to be thrown out, and be left with a handful of seats.

SM: "The coalition has always advocated installing a fiber backbone to supply "nodes"".

This obfuscates the fact that only Labor has prioritized a NBN and its full extension to all premises rather than watching grass grow. "No NBN" meant what it said in the last election and now we are to LNP has seen the light.

LNP's broadband proposal is simply there to stave off the issue as an obstacle to election. Like all decent infrastructure it will take Labor gumption to prioritize it and make it happen while the LNP prefers counting pennies and watching our future crumble. Costelloe thought giving millions to rich superannuants was a greater investment in the future than building something that would generate future wealth. Labor lost vision for awhile but a NBN and a NDIS are something the LNP would never deliver in a fit if things were left to it.

The thought of Australia's infrastructure suffering under Abbott sickens me as much as it did under Howard. God help us.

Correction: "... and now we are to stupidly believe LNP has seen the light?"