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Socialism has it any future in Australia?

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While ever there are floods, droughts and bushfires then Socialism will be alive in Australia.
The average bloke, and blokess, on the land will always be fiercely independent and anti-Socialist until hit by anyone of the above, then there will be a ready acceptance of the handout or the long term loan etc etc.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 30 April 2007 7:40:10 PM
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You confuse fascism with socialism. Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests inferior to the needs of the state. (as in Howard's Australia, replace state with economy).

Your contribution is ill considered and factually wrong. If you have little or no comprehension of the issues I suggest you read more on the subject.

BOAZ, if you wish to bring everything back to evil Islam, what is your reaction to the one million Turks who took to the streets to protect a secular society in a muslim country, backed by the army.

Solidarity, fairness? why avoid the issue?
Posted by ruawake, Monday, 30 April 2007 7:48:25 PM
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Is Mise, you can be thankful for socialism too when next you pick up your welfare cheque.

I think Australians will always give a hand up to their fellow man, particularly when being down is through no fault of their own.
You shouldn't confuse "ready" acceptance with forced acceptance. As you say the people on the land are an independant lot and don't take assistance unless they have to. Govt actually spends quite an amount of money trying to get farmers to apply for drought help.
Posted by rojo, Monday, 30 April 2007 8:54:36 PM
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Spoken like a good socialist ruawake;

Now about reading more, that is simply not true; Psychology is the mitigating factor.

I could direct you to some logical and deductive literature, but some how I think you would still like to maintain the dream and would not consider those factual arguments in your ideological assessment on the subject.

Just by the little you have written , it is your self who does not read much , but I would extend some consideration that the limited writings you have absorbed ; throw it out ; and like any good socialist propaganda( Oxymoron) it is that very propaganda that appeals and manifests on that very psychology of others;

Unless there is another factor I would need to consider?

So now you will argue that; you have the answers to fix the problem Socialism in its clandestine operations created?

I don’t think so.
Posted by All-, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 2:47:39 AM
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Telstra is no longer publicly owned.
I am surprised so many posted without making that clear?
And Socialism if that s what some think we have now is not working.
BD how can such a dedicated Christian think of a more caring world as a warm and fuzzy dream?
Self interest is indeed a powerful thing.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 5:25:34 AM
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Egad people, the debate you're having about socialism within capitalism is missing the ball.

Wiki 'social liberalism.' There you go - now which is the better system - classic liberalism, or social liberalism? Now there's a debate which might have a role in Australia's future.

If we can just stop frothing at the mouth about socialism and realise that yes, elements of socialism are embedded in society, and what is the best role of government, then maybe we'll get somewhere...
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:31:19 AM
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