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Strange bedfellows

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The Greens and the National Party are 1 mining disaster away from an inevitable alliance. (Generally speaking)The Nats and 'others',never missed an opportunity to portray Greenies,in the early days,as lazy tree-hugging dope-smoking good-for-nothing's hippies.This type of rhetoric was a favourite means of attack amongst right wingers and their 'friends' and allies. The Australian Greens were assisted by a long drought and the reality of science to make an immediate impact on educated suburbanites.It's there (more or less)where urban meets rural, that the original battle lines were drawn and the Greens established themselves on the political scene.
However,both political opponents have common ground. Neither want to see the destruction of land,they want to deter salinity,erosion and the ' loss' of fertile land. Both want the preservation and subsistence of land. It's the 'wartime' ally of the Nationals that will force the inevitable split. The Libs crave mining and its revenue,like a foolish ugly school kid who thinks it has found a life long lover .The Libs are devoid of responsible policy - It's mining, or its a lift in GST. The miners are Liberal party donors and the Libs are compelled to bend over to their every whim. The Nats and Libs are old 'friends' but imagine a mining disaster whereby the water table, soil and/or air was contaminated by the practices of the mining industry. Who do you think the Libs will side with if the Nats were ticked off with the mining industry ?. Will their be strong characters within the Party to stand alone or with the Greens against the new 'enemy',someone with integrity and strength of character,not the fluffy idiotic ramblings of Joice and co........ History Awaits !
Posted by Whatsit2ya, Sunday, 7 April 2013 11:54:08 AM
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Whatsit2ya,
You forgot to mention the greatest blood ($) suckers of them all.
Posted by individual, Monday, 8 April 2013 6:38:00 AM
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Whatsit2ya, In this case we Greens have gone into coalition with the Nationals over the issue of unfettered mining, we are getting huge support from farmers and other country folk on the issue of coal seam gas. Many who one would label conservative in nature are coming to realise that they do have friends like The Greens who will stand up for them when they are threatened by the likes of 'Big Mining'.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 8 April 2013 7:12:43 AM
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Whatsit2ya,

Now there's a thought, and why not? Stranger things have happened in the naked jungle of politics.
It's high time we had broader representation via a strong middle-ground - and a Nats/Greens alliance could be just what we need to achieve that, and to lift ourselves out of the two-horse slanging match and off the bi-polar seesaw.
No more Left/Right, Socialist/Industrialist dichotomy, but a real shake-up to the swinging-vote sector, and potentially a questioning and foundational review of long-held bias and dogged conformity of allegiance to either of the two former major 'oppositional' camps.

Could back-fire for the Nats, however, if support for such an alliance proved insufficient to gain meaningful representation. Also there would need to be some softening of the Greens' stance on some farming-related issues for an alliance of sufficient strength to even be possible.
Still, there is no doubt that 'regional development' needs a stronger voice, as does our commitment to land and marine ecological management, productivity and sustainability, and such an alliance could be our best hope of achieving those and similar objectives.

It's high time we had a fairdinkum shake-up, to encourage more considered and respectful discussion and debate of the very serious issues facing our future advancement in an increasingly competitive and troubled global environment.
Posted by Saltpetre, Monday, 8 April 2013 1:37:51 PM
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"The Greens and the National Party are 1 mining disaster away from an inevitable alliance."

Whatsit2ya you must be one of those delusional Greenies who thinks one swallow makes a summer, and that one over lapping issue leads to an alliance. Having lived in regional Australia for some years, especially in a fire prone area, the greens are as welcome as a dose of the clap. The libs and greens have common interest with respect to the Malaysian solution but I don't see an alliance on the horizon.

As for all the costed policies that Labor is calling for, considering Labor have never released all their policies and costing before the election in opposition, and even in 2010 only released some a few weeks before the election. Even then their costings have been a disaster, with every single program blowing out massively, due to incompetence and mismanagement.

As for the Greens, there is a policy free zone. I have read their documents and what they call "policies", but are a collection of wish lists with no concept of funding or consequences.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 8 April 2013 1:51:14 PM
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SM, like the true blue conservative you are. I'm sure you totally support the short sighted policy of the Mad Monk and his mob, that if its in the ground, then dig it up and ship it out, even if ordinary Australians get twopence a ton and it destroys the environment.
The Liberal mining policy is nothing more than look after Gina and her cronies and bugger the rest of us.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 8 April 2013 7:46:30 PM
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