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Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 8:51:08 AM
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No thanks mate. Queensland has one too. It is a sheltered workshop for those who have earned the pleasure of the pollies, but are too dumb to be put into a back bench parliament seat.
As it was a product of Fitzgerald up here, it's been a labor apologist all it's life, & as useful as tits on a bull. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 10:54:28 AM
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Rather pleased you do not agree Hasbeen, your bitter contributions, some times, are quite different to what most want.
Thought the Fitzgerald one did well, not sure the early release of names helped much. Joe escaped a well earned trip to prison, may be for the best, he would have needed an interpreter just to under stand his cell number. I said in my thought bubble powers given would be the whole rock the thing stands or falls on. Both side of the fence, as is seen in your dislike of out comes of the Fitzgerald one, need to be isolated, unable to interfere. In fact, and it will not work without it, officers of the committee must go to prison for a long time, if guilty of any lies false evidence or protecting any one. The fact these things state and federal are not working, in my view proves we need to be much better. Hence an Elliot Ness type powerful and active thing. NSW filth thing may yet no see prison, yet it is the lowest we know of, mandatory prison terms are a must. Any country afraid to enforce its laws on the power and privileged along side the day to day criminal is unworthy of the term country. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 2:57:14 PM
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Belly old mate, my only dislike of the Fitzgerald inquiry was the man himself. Nasty little jumped up squirt, who loved being treated like god by the media. The fool actually believed his own propaganda, & the press treated every word he uttered as if from the Sermon on the Mount. When he said he was going to take a piss, it was treated as a pronouncement from on high.
I have said before, but you tend not to notice, I thought old Joh was a bit of a bumbling fool, & couldn't get rid of him quick enough. As I have found so often recently, we should be careful what we wish for. It did not take much of Goss to realise what we had lost. Of course we didn't miss most of the hangers on, just the old bloke. After the next National bloke, so bad I can't even remember his name we got Beattie. Now he is definitely in the running for the most useless blot that has ever stained a page. He was not only dreadful, but extremely nasty & vindictive with it. Still his protege Bleigh give him a run, if she'd had longer, at least in the useless stakes. It took a long time to finally get a bloke who might actually manage costs, & do a worthwhile job. Still you'd have to be here to realise just how bad our CMC has been. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 4:10:15 PM
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http://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/
Sorry Hasbeen I got it wrong and with draw without reserve. I actualy share that view, about the bloke and most judges and magistrates. I see folk walk free too often, and see no reason to think most who sit in judgment share the publics concerns and understanding. For that very reason, a lack of trust, in any state or federal group charged with controlling corruption organized crime and such, I put up my thought bubble. The link is to a some what watered down thing, some fearing it would uncover them, got the knife out. Australia needs something, current investigations are shown on the site the link leads to. A law supporting fence that must not be passed is good for us all. Posted by Belly, Thursday, 14 March 2013 7:41:26 AM
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OK fair enough, we are not going to talk about this.
We will talk about stamping on the ALP, kicking the poor. But the thought of putting in place a National over sight of corruption and crimes, mostly against us all, is not worth the effort. I can only hope the icac investigation in NSW remains open, and honest, and no white wash of the powerful but true scabs that make up the NSW FILTH. Today the clean but hopelessly up against it, leader of Labor in NSW called for Obied and another, wait for it. To be expelled from the ALP. Reform? Federal members can not spell the word. Posted by Belly, Thursday, 14 March 2013 3:39:19 PM
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I propose a national one.
NSW has the power to call before it politicians and those who maybe be charged with corruption, including Police and government employees.
Both sides of government have at times tried to water it down.
And while later proved untrue, a Premier was one of its victims.
Currently this commission is less than at its birth, power reduced by self interest.
It has its job ahead with this country biggest KNOWN corruption investigation, the NSW FILTH one.
We have many state and federal commissions, call them what you will.
CMC is currently under a cloud and former national crime investigator in prison, for being the biggest criminal his mob ever investigated.
I think independent is the operative word.
And that it should have the power to mandatory send those who give false evidence before it to prison, not just a few days but years.
As corruption, this NSW one bought a union head before it, harms us all such a commission should be fully armed and protected from power and influence
What do others think.