Geez Bazz,
A bit negative there.

Why do we have to be last on the bus ?

I think with Howard, we will always be behind the game .

You seem to be saying a bit of responsibility and some discipline ,[never mind if it's for a good cause]is just too hard for big business and Australians in general .I don't think you are correct .

Hey Kartiya Jim; I never said anything like that.
We have to spend a lot of money to get the rail and city transport onto
local rail systems.
I agree on using the tax system to get people out of the car and onto
public transport, especially for the trip to work.
However the amount of money required to fund just the national rail system
up to a point where all interstate trucks are off the roads can only be
found by increasing the petrol & diesal tax.

The sustainability party should also adopt a policy of having
the Transition Protocol presented to the United Nations.
Btw the Greens are claiming ownership of the Transition Protocol but
it in fact is the proposal of Colin Campbell an oil geologist with the
Association for the Study of Oil & Gas (ASPO).

Everyone seem to be in an utter flap about greenhose gasses and not
noticing the elephant trying to get in through the door.

I have added a policy on the dodgy 1st home owners grant. Also, please forward this on to interested people.

Ludwig, sorry about that: http://www.ozpolitic.com/members/freediver/

"If Howard got one thing right, it was to not get sucked into a failed traety."

In what sense has it failed?

Bazz, efficient public transport will only be part of the solution. A major part will be reducing consumption via more fuel efficient cars and use of electricity. Given our low population, we will quickly run into a situation where more public transport actually increases our greenhouse emissions.

"The sustainability party should also adopt a policy of having the Transition Protocol presented to the United Nations."

You mean the green tax shift?

"Everyone seem to be in an utter flap about greenhose gasses and not noticing the elephant trying to get in through the door."

What elephant?

What is your stance on refugees?

Noted an article on your website about -evolution being false -is that part of your platform?

"If Howard got one thing right, it was to not get sucked into a failed treaty."

>In what sense has it failed?

In what sense has it succeeded ?
How many will make their quota ?
Even the carbon trading price has dived.

>Bazz, efficient public transport will only be part of the solution.
>A major part will be reducing consumption via more fuel efficient cars >and use of electricity.

Of course, but electric cars should only be used as shopping trolleys,
not for long interstate trips. Electric trains will be much more
efficient.

> Given our low population, we will quickly run into a situation where >more public transport actually increases our greenhouse emissions.

Please explain.

"The sustainability party should also adopt a policy of having the Transition Protocol presented to the United Nations."

>You mean the green tax shift?

No, I am refering to Colin Campbell's proposed international treaty
for importing countries to reduce imports of oil by the world
depletion percentage. The Greens are claiming it as their own but
it is not their scheme and has been around for a few years.
NB Colin Campbell is a founder of the Association for the Study of
Peak Oil and Gas (ASPO).

"Everyone seem to be in an utter flap about greenhose gasses and not
noticing the elephant trying to get in through the door."

What elephant?

EXACTLY !

Sustainable Population Australia Inc (http://population.org.au/) has been plugging away at the population stabilisation and overall sustainability message for 19 years with very little success. But at last they are being listened to, with their pleas for a halt to population growth in SEQ receiving high-profile media attention.

Noosa Shire mayor Bob Abbott supports this. He said;

“all land in south-east Queensland will be covered in houses and dams if the State Government does not introduce a population cap.”

Wonderful! Someone in an influential political position is at last saying the right sort of thing and being heeded (Bob has been saying it for a while, and being ignored of course).

So maybe, just maybe we are actually stepping onto the first rung of the long long ladder to sustainabiity.

With this sort of thing now reaching mainstream media and hence public attention, the time is right for the launch of a new party based on an urgent need to achieve sustainability.