Yeah, Geoffrey, about that graph you are so fond of. You say it is 'peer-reviewed science', and yet I cannot seem to find it in the scientific literature.

Could you please provide a reference to the original paper that published that graph in the scientific literature. Proper reference with paper (or papers) title, authors and year published would be very helpful. Just having an authors last name and year is not helpful. There are many authors with similar names and most publish multiple papers a year.

Anyway, I want to conform for you that you rgraph is actually peer reviewed and not juts 'made up'. Any help would be appreciated.

Dear qanda,

Yes it is a pity Geoffrey got the sulks up because I was starting to enjoy myself and I really did want to ascertin whether I should view him as “mentally feeble” or “embarrassingly eccentric”. Tis indeed a fine line. His limited grasp of science would indicate the former but the World government nonsense has dibs on the latter.

But it was the line “My generation fought hard to make our courts the highest in the land and we withdrew the right to appeal to the English Privy Council and now you dunces are willing to hand over the highest court in the land to mad bloody African communists?” that actually got me in.

Especially because I knew for a fact that many, on what I assume is his side of politics, didn't want a bar of the reform and fought it tooth and nail. It was Labour under Gough that got the job done.

For someone like to Geoffrey be claim his 'generation fought hard' for something that was actually achieved by those he loudly decries reminds one of those rather sad types who turn up on ANZAC Day pretending to be something they aren't and wearing someone else's medals. My father had a word for such folk and it wasn't complimentary.

Anyhow I did get a kick out of his 'peer reviewed' graph which appeared to be something tacked together by the infamous Tim Ball, not exactly top of the credibility list.

But it seems to be an universal trait, these guys come in here all guns blazing and when one returns a little of the same they get all huffy.

However something tells me I haven't heard the last of young Geoffrey. His type rarely leave these things lie.

Hi Bugsy,

Did a Google image search and didn't come up with anything but deniers sites. Could mean it originated in a small article somewhere, or Tim could have made the thing up.

The seas are rising, the earth is flat - and you can earn a quick and easy 20 bucks from protesting against wind farms....

http://www.desmogblog.com/2013/01/25/mystery-company-posts-job-opportunity-anti-wind-power-protesters?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

It seems the financial facilitators of denialism are becoming a tad brazen - they usually hang out in the backgound:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html?_r=1&

Dear Bugsy,

You said/asked on Bugsy, Saturday, 26 January 2013 1:10:55 PM for the peer reviewed references that the graph is based on. I have to fess up and admit that I am on holidays at our place in Metung and don’t have all my notes on me, but I have repeated my research as best I can.

The graph I refer to has been compiled from the results of two separate workers, CR Scotese and RA Berner (Geocarb III). The graph is produced on the website of CR Scotese. See

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html

Who is Christopher R Scotese? He is the creator of the Paleomar Project among other things. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Scotese

RA Berner created GEOCARB III: A Revised Model of Atmospheric CO2 over Phanerozoic Time. See:
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/climate_forcing/trace_gases/phanerozoic_co2.txt
and
http://www.ajsonline.org/content/301/2/182.abstract
The latter is only an abstract to the full paper, but should verify that it has been published in a peer-reviewed journal, “The American Journal of Science”. It also offers a list of other workers who cite this paper.
Who is RA Berner? He was working in the Department of Geology and Geophysics, Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut 06520-8109 when he did the work. You will find some of his CV here:
http://people.earth.yale.edu/profile/robert-berner/about
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I would like to make a point about science and scepticism in general. I was trained as a scientist. An important part of science is being sceptical. Anybody who attacks me as a skeptic immediately identifies himself or herself as a science illiterate.
To brand people or sites as “deniers” or “skeptics” is both highly offensive and quite ignorant behaviour. To discuss AGW or Climate Change in general it is important to keep an open mind. Naturally you will not find this science on the IPCC or any other pro-AGW forum. The “warmists” cherry pick their science and refuse to accept science that does not fit their argument.
Finally, the formation of a World Gov’t was not my idea. It was the UNFCCC that suggested a world gov’t. If you want to ridicule anybody, try reading the UNFCCC Sept. 2009 submission to the IPCC at Copenhagen. To criticise me for telling nonsense is just a plain lie by ignorant people who cannot bother checking references.
Regards,
Geoffrey Kelley, Metung

Geoffrey, there are 190+ member states of the UNFCCC, each government is represented and as a whole, they all have to agree on its governance, now up to COP 18.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNFCCC

If all the governments of the world agree, so be it.

Anyway, you want to 'cherry pick' the words of one Article, in 2009.

Ok, go ahead, but most rational thinking people, indeed ... all the governments of the UNFCCC have moved on. You? Still stuck in the mud - get over it.

You also want to 'cherry pick' Tim Ball's 'cherry picking'? That is a joke, right. Even the most ardent of real sceptics (not fake sceptics) regard Ball as the outsider - for obvious reasons.

If you want to take your Ball home, go for it - you won't be missed.

Btw, the United Nations was instigated for a reason:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations

Why do you think they are seriously concerned about global warming and humanity's influence? Wait, don't bother - it's all a communist plot, eh?

Oh yeah, there are a few others poking around here, Geoffrey, that are also "trained scientists" - you really should not play 'dibs' with them, you will come off very badly, in my most humble opinion.

Now, enjoy your holidays.