Scribbler we did not get there.
Of we achieved some things, some posts proved why we get bad politicians? we get what we deserve.
Now you MUST include the trap in threads titles.
Say things like GILLARD HAS SEX BEFORE WEDDING!
Or Abbott faces knock out, before he enters a triathlon.
Will not bring great contributors.
But it will bring many more.
Having read and learned from some contributions I now think more states not less, and TRY to remove local government.
Will be better, but stand by no upper house and no preferences one vote one value.
USA style re call too.

Belly,
How about just simply not supporting the proven useless crap-heads & giving the potential crap-heads a chance to prove themselves better or worse. I for one have had ample evidence to want me not support Labor for some time yet.
We have no guarantee that the Coalition will be much better but better they will be.
I look at those two parties like this; Can I expect an Academic/Lawyer to provide me with support for my daily needs in exchange for my money or do I expect a Farmer or Businessmen to give me a better deal?

Indy nothing you have ever shown here gives you the right to call any one a crap head.
Not being rude.
You just have been told by far more than me, you are lost in most subjects.
I with confidence, think you over estimate your degree of understanding.

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Indy nothing you have ever shown here gives you the right to call any one a crap head.
Not being rude.
You just have been told by far more than me, you are lost in most subjects.
I with confidence, think you over estimate your degree of understanding.
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OTOH!

Everything you write on here shows you are a crap-head and not worth listening to.

I with confidence, think you over estimate your degree of understanding.

Your lot are minute by minute destroying this country and all you can do is sprout on about the other side.

Well buddy, the other side aren't in power. Even you can't predict the future. But then you're so up your self you probably, honestly believe you can!

Disclaimer:

I don't like the other side either, but that's not the point!

Belly,
how about answering the question before hitting on my name-calling. I call anyone a crap-head who takes my tax dollar & squanders it indiscriminately then hit me for more money in permits, licenses & all sorts of other fees. Spend our taxes wisely & I'll stop calling them crap-heads. Deal ? The ball's in their court !

Indy R YOU OK?
Can even you skip you dumb words to slag me off for highlighting , that is/has always been, the best you can do.
What special understanding, gives you the right to slander half this country,s voters.
You have NEVER put one post together that makes ANY SENSE.
Anti Labor people can think as they wish, some express them selves well, even putting cases I can not defend.
Not you not ever.