Or Belly, K Rudd and C.o could have left well enough alone, but hey, that's simply not the labor way, is it.

No, they get into power and take an axe to almost everything, shooting blindly at everything with little to no idea of how the real world works.

What labor should have done, once they realized that they had tried to fix the unbroken illegals problem, was to step aside and accept the fact they they stuffed up.

Back to topic, perhaps we need to at least trial a rewards system, rather than just a penalty system as we currently have.

Say drivers with a two year clean slate were rewarded with a subsidized rego, say 50% discount, then, if they have an infringement (traffic related) then their rego gets a loading applied, much like insurances do.

Now if they were to have two infringements in a year, they receive a 120 or 150% loading on their rego, and so on, for a two year period.

Go two years with a clean slate, down comes your rego again.

Of cause Rego's and licienses would have to be linked.

Even schools reward good behavior as opposed to just punishing bad. Rewards work.

But, as I always say, cut the road toll, where do the jobs come from, as road incidents/trauma creates thousands of jobs, both directly and indirectly.

Sad, even calis, but very true.

Rehctub, that might be all right, if we could trust the cops to be reasonable.

My car club for years held an annual show & shine, for classic sports cars, down Beaudesert way. One year we were threatened with cancellation of our permit, when the new secretary notified the local cop shop, but not traffic branch, a month in advance. Traffic branch did not have time to arrange the normal 4 radar traps for the event.

A while back some of our local kids attended a burnout show at Kalbar. As they were leaving 6 consecutive cars leaving the venue were booked for excessive "noise & smoke". 6 were stopped as there was space to park 6. The cars were confiscated for 48 hours.

My son, a passenger in one called, & a number of us had to go pick the kids up.

Then I discovered they were leaving because the event was abandoned due to rain making it impossible for contestants to generate any smoke or noise.

In view of this we challenged the charges in court, but only after the kids involved had paid a large sum for towing & holding each car to get them back.

The kids had been coming out of a very muddy paddock entrance. Some may have been spinning wheels in the mud, they are not angles, but noise & smoke were impossible. We won the case, but it had cost the kids heaps.

I gather the officious young cop got a telling off by the organiser, the local sargent of police, who was trying to get the local kids to have fun, but drive sensibly on the roads, & generate some respect between cops & kids.

While this goes on, I'm sure not too many will trust the cops with traffic policing.

HB, the cops are more now than ever, revenue raisers. Why, because we have no money.

one such example is their opposition to a Facebook site, which alerts fellow contributors to the whereabouts to radars, speed traps etc.

Surely, if just ome driver is aware of the trap, and slows as a result, that is a good thing, but no, cause the cops can't raise revenue.

If they were concerned with speeding, they would encourage such sites, but they don't.

Similar to how they react to those who flash alert oncoming drivers, which by the way, carries a fine if caught.

After all, they claim speed cameras and the likes are there to make drivers slow down, pull the other one I say, as the above examples are aiding their so called quest, not hindering them.

Belly - Quote "I answered CLEARLY those questions." I only asked 1 question which you did not answer except with 17 lines of dribble.

In the next post I asked "I am still trying to decipher this one Quote "Do you consider roads more important than defense, health, welfare, transport, education, are you aware we are 22 million America?"
I Still can't decipher it.

Phillip S,
Not only has this government wasted the $4.5 billion on the illegals, there are heaps of other hairbrained schemes where they have thown our money away for no benefit to Aus. The latest revelation is that we have given grants to african and Carribeen countries in effort to gain a seat on the UNSC. Wasted nearly $3 billion and not one jot of benefit for us.

These two items alone would build a fair bit of dual carriage way.

Are you aware of the list of 50 Labor stuff ups circulating? I have added a few more as well.

The present government has no concept of doing anything that may benefit Australia.

Phillip, I like Belly, I recon deep down he's a great bloke, one that I too would share a beer with.

Unfortunately, he is a full blown unionist and they have this thing about them where labor and the unions can do no wrong.

He's convinced that labor's only problem is their leader, whereas we know labor leaders are simply puppets, as their strings are pulled by the faceless men.

I know this as my dad was exactly the same, whereby he would argue black and blue that the unions and labor could do no wrong.

He was appalled when I voted for John Howard, as even after two or three terms of the libs, whereby the books were balanced, he hatted the fact that labor were in not in government, regardless of the great job JH and PC did.

He also had this thing whereby, if he was cornered, or beaten, he takes his bat and ball and runs.

They would rather do this than be proven wrong. It's a shame, but I guess we all have faults.

Banjo
The worst part is that the libs appear to have slipped to now be on par with this (worst ever) government. Thanks in part to Campbell Newman and his quest to fix QLD.

Tony Abbott, or whoever leads the next (non labor) government will have the same, (only much larger) task on their hands, with no money, more unemployment and a slowing mining sector.

Boy this present government has a lot to answer for, as not only have they stuffed up most of what they touched, but they tried to fix something (illegals) that wasn't broken in the first place.

Now everyone must remember, they have achieved this disgraceful record of waste and miss management IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.

God knows where we will be if they get another term.

COMPLETELY BROKE I would suggest.