<< How is more policing or more bureacracy going to prevent tyre blow-outs, mechanical failure, wrong cambering on bends, create more overtaking lanes and dual carriageways? >>

Crackcup, it is not going to achieve any of those things. We’ve got to work on those as well. But the No 1 most important thing as I see it is to rein in the rank drivers.

How can anyone possibly advocate addressing all of those things while completely missing the need to make bad drivers a whole lot less dangerous?

<< I believe that in fact driving on the roads today has its own inherent problems created by traffic congestion, continuous checking of speedo, scanning ahead for Radar and Speed traps as well as watching the traffic around you. >>

Hold on, isn’t the continuous checking of your speedo just a fundamental part of driving? If you have that bit under control, then you don’t need to worry about speed traps. And monitoring what’s happening all around you is similarly just a fundamental part of driving. You could hardly call it a distraction!

I really don’t think that the quality of the roads is a major issue. It is certainly nowhere near as important as driver behaviour and the policing thereof.

Even where the roads are quite bad, there is usually not much of a hazard. You simply drive to the prevailing conditions. The only time road quality is a significant factor as far as I can see is after big rain events when there are lots of potholes around and the degraded quality of the road is not immediately apparent. But again this doesn’t amount to much of a hazard really. Warning signs are generally put up pretty quickly and the damage is repaired as quickly as possible in places where it does present a real hazard.

Rechtub answers exist, for such as the Bruce NSW style concrete .
But take the ill informed experts out of it and the bean counters, first explain to the motorists the funding issue.
BUT BUILD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME less road but for much longer life.
A day will come that sees additives that work, in that dirt country.
Already cement and lime other products too are added to harden roads.
Too much leads to crocodile cracking worse than before.
A road must have a base that flex,s no more or less than its surface.
Trowing a sheet of fibro over a mud swamp with look good until you step on it.
Despite the uninformed views to the contrary if we fund roads to every ones requirements we MUST CUT other things health?
Education?
If crossing a desert take water, if driving take care

Belly - Quote "Despite the uninformed views to the contrary if we fund roads to every ones requirements we MUST CUT other things health?
Education?"

Now you have admitted that some things take money away from other services, namely education and health.

So now can you justify in excess of $4.5 Billion dollars being spent on boatloads of the welfare for lifers at the expense of or education and health systems to name 2 only.

Phillip S I have little regard for your posting style.
Let us consider this carefully.
What would you have the government do with boat people to save that money?
Current plans are not working and will not.
Would you put Malaysia to work.
Is it not part of the announced plan, is it not truly more likely to stop the boats?
Or do you want to send the navy out to sink and drown them at sea.
Easy to contribute junk but in the real world some things are unchangeable.
Do you consider roads more important than defense, health, welfare, transport, education, are you aware we are 22 million America?
Do you think every road, at least every well used on can be built ? then in what time frame, how much will it cost.
The 75% of fuel tax in general revenue, in NSW includes an extra tax to build roads, it funded in part the Pacific,still 16 years maybe twice that, from completion.
What else is under fundd?
Then put GST UP TO 20% FUEL UP 10% MORE?
No uninformed best fits you.
Tell me, while we wait,and yes by all means demand better roads will slowing down help?
That is achievable now and costs nothing.

Belly - Personally I do not care if you do not like my posting style, simple don't read them.

I asked you a simple question "So now can you justify in excess of $4.5 Billion dollars being spent on boatloads of the welfare for lifers at the expense of or education and health systems to name 2 only."

Your reply was to come back with 17 lines of text that still did not answer the question. I did not count your 1st line as it was just about your dislike for my posting style.

If you do not want to answer either just say so or don't reply but to reply like you usually do makes people want to ignore your comments.

I am still trying to decipher this one Quote "Do you consider roads more important than defense, health, welfare, transport, education, are you aware we are 22 million America?"

I need to retreat from this thread, and a few others.
NEVER in cowardice, but in the interests of our forum.
I answered CLEARLY those questions.
Fact is one cake exists just that, do we borrow another.
Do we borrow two or three.
The GFC SAW EFFORTS TO PUMP CASH INTO varied AREAS,to keep workers in work.
Not all of it worked well but workers kept jobs.
Unknown to some, cash went in to infrastructure, including roads.
Right now, at a time of low tax returns and some truly held concerns, we are spending more on the NATIONS ROADS than EVER BEFORE.
Achievable things are different that wanted things.
Writing slowly, WHAT DO WE DROP to build more roads?
If the road was made of broken glass, had holes 2 foot deep, would insisting on driving at 110 klm be wise.
Reduce the speed on the Bruce, but demand better.
PS I now leave the thread, throwing insults but ignoring truth is not fun.